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Game Design Change The Flamethrower Mob Spell

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Locky1110, Jul 9, 2018.

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Should they change this

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  2. No (Why)

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  1. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    The flamethrower mob spell is, if you didn't know, is a spell that creates a large string of fire, chasing the player around, and lingers for a while.

    Problem with that is, it's really difficult to avoid it. And it's generally really strong
    Jumping can evade a bit of the damage, but you still take many hits none the less
    Solar Vanguard and Corrupted Garoth are two examples
    And they both have a flamethrower II spell, which is a stronger version of Flamethrower
    I have had a lot of trouble with the vanguard, and garoth is pretty strong

    So, I propose that the Flamethrower and Flamethrower II Should be changed

    I was thinking that it should be a beam shot by the mob, however instead of following the player quickly, it takes much longer for it to reach to you, like once it shoots the beam out, it can only slowly move left in right, opposed to following the player around
    If you don't know what i mean, I think it should function similar to a special move called Stingray in Splatoon, however, still being identical in appearance, and a bit slower and with f i r e

    Finally, in a recent thread I read this one which is essentially a rant about the corrupted lost sanctuary, Selvut made a comment saying why Garoth in particular may be more difficult than other bosses (i didn't know how to smoothly slide it in):

    As Selvut said here, flamethrower is unnecessarily difficult to avoid

    and like i said earlier, because of that you take a lot of damage
    and it's unfair in general

    alright i'm done plz vote in pool
     
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  2. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    There is neither a pool nor a poll.
     
  3. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    there be poll now
     
  4. Shots

    Shots Legendary Adventurer

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    I do agree it should be nerfed slightly, as it has one of the highest damage overtime as a spell in the game if I'm not mistaken, and due to it being quite annoying to avoid, that damage usually really hurts. I'd just like to throw out there though that if you move far away enough from the mob using flamethrower the flamethrower completely stops (but with things like Matrojan the arena is quite small making this difficult so yeah).
     
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  5. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    That's incorrect; flamethrower's damage is customizable as with every spell. Since it's a multi-hitting spell, the damage you take is almost always less than 100% with heavy flamethrower, though since the short flamethrower is so tiny and useless it often gets more than 100% damage. Generally, we notice it hitting about four times in testing...
     
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    Shots Legendary Adventurer

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    Wait so are both statements incorrect or just the statement of the damage incorrect? Because if the going away from the mob far enough is incorrect I don't really see how since with Doc Legendary for example when I see him start using flamethrower I just escape spell really far away (using archer as the class example since I use it the most) from him and it stops.
     
  7. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Difference between Flame Thrower and Heavy Flamethrower, and the spell is weird and buggy anyways.
     
  8. highbread

    highbread highbread

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    just remember that these are dr. legendary's spells
    Screenshot_20180528-213633.jpg
     
  9. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    i never really had trouble with dr. legendary, aside from some close call multi hits
     
  10. Nukewarmachine

    Nukewarmachine emerald tier above LE when

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    Are these spells for phase 1 or 3?

    And @Locky are you suggesting the flamethrower spell should be changed into a thin (or thick, depending on the spell used), but damaging laser beam-like spell?
     
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  11. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    whoops didn't specify

    it should be identical in appearance, just being much slower going left or right

    ill edit that into the post
     
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    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    el bumperino
     
  14. CountBurn

    CountBurn Hackysack?

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    if you can beat cybel then how is dr legendary hard?
     
  15. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    why'd u say no? :c

    But like it's not just Dr. Legendary
    Solar Vanguard and Garoth are 2 other mobs with the spell
    Maytrojan also has it, and theres already a thread ranting about it
     
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