World Mana Tweaks

I've been told by the CT on discord that this would fix a TON of problems so here goes: Multiply the base value of all mana-related content by 10. This includes maximum mana pool, mana costs, mana regen, and mana steal. By doing this, you would have a LOT more leeway with changes to mana based things. Allow me to provide an example of how this would work:
Max mana of a player: 20 -> 200
Base mana regen: 3 -> 30 (Idk what the actual base is but you get the point)
Mana regen items: 1/4 -> 10/4 --- 3/4 -> 30/4 etc.
Mana steal items: (see mana regen above, same thing)
Doing something like this would change the mana regen stat on Memento to be 10/4 - 40/4 instead of 1/4 - 4/4.
I've been told that due to the massive number of items that would need to be changed in order for this to work, the idea would take roughly a year to implement. Regardless of the duration of time it would take, I feel as though this change would help with mana tweaks and future mana related items later on. It would also be easier to adjust mana costs and include various numbers which currently cannot exist such as 2.5/4. After applying this change would be 25/4 and would be entirely possible. I do realize that many of these changes could drastically shake things up, but I think this would be a good change in the long run and things will settle eventually. From that point, things can be buffed/nerfed more easily in terms of mana while also not changing how the game works right now and (barring item changes) wouldn't affect anyone's builds right now.

 

i mean why not
but how would spells and mana pots work?
im guessing spells would just cost like 10x more, so like 120 intel vanish costs 10 instead of 1.
but for mana pots, would a 66 mana pot become a 660 mana pot in the same amount of time, or would the duration scale too as it is mana related

 

Since Mana is currently tied to your food bar in a sense, I get the feeling this idea is much easier stated than done. I agree with this idea and it would be cool to see but I am pretty sure it would take a really long time to implement, possibly more time than its worth.

Still, +1

 

IIRC, 10 mana ---> 100 mana was a thing during Gavel's development but was scrapped for unknown reasons. This is evident based on the fact that Meridian had 10 Mana regen but was shortly changed to 1 since Meridian's MR was originally based around there being 100 mana. There was even a whole debate about this a couple years back.

 

@12nebur27 thoughts?

Also it wouldn't take a year... right?

 

It wouldnt take a year but what would have to happen first is.. we have to finish all the stuff we are curently doing which is a LOT and then code needs changing AND salto would probs want this tied to a bigger update (because thats how wynn works ._.) sooooooooooooo effective implementation would be long away

 

I don't think the duration would scale. I think 660 would be the appropriate change though.

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The only real complication I can see besides implementation length would be the fact that the hunger bar is 20 bits, extending to 40 via the invisible saturation bar (which you don't see). However, I think that what they've done with health can potentially also be incorporated into the hunger bar? If so, it shouldn't be too difficult of a change and the only real issue would be the time it takes to change all the items.

 

yep this is true. Mana was orignially planned to be 100 which would have been very nice.. no clue why it was not done in the end though..;-;

 

It wouldn’t take a year. Once you have 200 mana and your mana regen is only 12 people will either Reid their items or they’ll get new ones.