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World Mythic Bow Idea

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by afterburner0128, Nov 5, 2017.

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Do you think this Bow is Overpowered or Underpowered or Even?

  1. Over

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  2. Under

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  3. Even

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  1. afterburner0128

    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Athanos
    Super Slow Attack Speed

    Neutral: 800-1300 Earth: 1200-2000 fire: 800-1200

    Class Req: Archer/Hunter
    Lvl Min: 97
    Strength Min: 115
    Defense Min: 50

    -25 to -36 attack speed
    +350 to +800 melee dmg
    +50% to +100% exploding

    -2500 to -4000 spell dmg
    -6/4 to 7/4 mana regen
    -75% to -110% spell dmg

    +10% to 20% melee dmg
    +10% to 20% earth dmg
    +3% to 13% fire dmg

    -45 to% -80% walk speed
    -150% to -250% water def

    -70% to -95% air def
    +30% to +45% fire def
    +15% to +25% earth def

    +200 to +500 health
    -25% to -50% soul point regen

    [0/2 powder slots]
    Mythic Item
    A once shining land was crushed by the fire that engulfed it, a seemingly harmless bow sunk below the fiery abyss, where it became fuelled with rage and destruction, said only few arrows are needed to slay the toughest of enemies.

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    Basically Gma + Ignis + Stinger, hopefully works out ok, i wouldn't really say a direct replacement to all, but heres why i made some of these decisions.

    +350 to +800 melee
    +10% to 20% melee dmg
    +10% to +20% earth dmg
    +3% to +13% fire dmg

    Based on Insane Melee, i wanted the bow to do Insanely high amounts of Damage for every strike, without a build, hopefully around 10k to 15k, with one hopefully 35k to 45k, and 75-90k per quake although dmg is insanely brutal its dps is comparable to a spring's bomb spam or Cataclysm, just to remember getting the shots takes huge amounts of skill.

    -2500 to -4000 spell
    -5/4 to -7/4 mana regen
    -45% to -80% walk speed
    -150% to -250% water def
    -70% to -95% air def

    Vulnerability to Air and Water gives it a weakness, I didn't wanna take away too much mana regen like 4/4 because mana regen is super important at all times, and just taking it away would make the bow pretty well useless, instead i took away 6/4 to 7/4 to make it useful, for ex Escape Spell, easy to get the negatives off with a concentration and suppresion or something like it. I took away some walk speed, but didn't wanna take too much away because its key for the player to be able to move especially with ranged enemies but taking a bit of it away to make it harder rather than taking it all away seems to be ok.


    +50% to +100% exploding


    Helps cover the loss of arrow bomb spell for large masses of mobs.


    +30% to +45% fire def
    +15% to +25% earth def
    +200 to 500 health

    The bow still has some fire in it, and giving some defense to the bow when holding it would help, the health could do some minor help against water/air enemies the def is for tanky dmg enemies of the same kind, and a boost to the bows fire abilities.

    -40% to -90% soul point regen

    a balance between the fire abilities above, doesn't do too much (unless you die lots)

    [0/2] powder slots

    didn't want to give it too many powder slots, that would make the bow too powerful for the abilities it already has, but still gave some for Earth Builds or Fire Builds.


    MAJOR CHANGES: Made Some Nerfs to make it More Balanced*

    melee changed +350 to +800, from +1500 to +3000 (realized its way too much)
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    19 to -26 attack speed because * people say its "Cancer Abusable, you won't find the sp for it"
    changed mana regen -6/4 to -7/4 from -
    1/4 to -2/4. walk Speed change -45% to -80% ws, FROM -15% to -35% . OTHER CHANGES: Exploding +50% to +100% FROM +50% to +130%


    10% to 20%
    Earth Dmg and Melee % from +20% to 35% melee and +15% to 20% earth. fire Melee changed to +5% to 15% from +3% to 13%

    Hopefully you Enjoyed My Idea, If you believe its Over/Underpowered and if i need to make changes, or anything else Leave a Comment on what you think.

     
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  2. Tekenen

    Tekenen Professional Loser VIP+

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    But why, we already have grandmother, ignis and stinger. Why would we want a combination of them ?
     
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  3. Kaelan~

    Kaelan~ RIP VIP

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    There are multiple themes, which you can change at the bottom of the Wynncraft page:
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    One of them, the one that is most commonly used is called starry night.
    Not only is the home page dark grey, but so is thread sections, so since you are using such dark colors, it is very difficult to read this for 90% of the community. I suggest you turn your dark colored letters into a brighter one. Don't make it white though, cause that'll piss off the rest of the light theme users.

    Also, Suggestions go into the suggestions section:
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/forums/general-suggestions.69/
    (located two sections below the Wynncraft section)
     
  4. LTMS

    LTMS Ninja Water Frog

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    Basically Alkatraz but more unbalanced and Cancer-Abusable. No thanks.
     
  5. war_master_9

    war_master_9 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Yea but they use light theme so dont they deserve it?
     
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  6. afterburner0128

    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    you cant abuse w/ cancer strength and def min won't allow it
     
  7. Totum

    Totum watching mythics lose value HERO

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    if you get a min -attack speed id this can be cancer abusable lol
    and then you see 100k dps builds
    nope
     
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  8. afterburner0128

    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    y not xd
     
  9. orange0402

    orange0402 I got exposed by pyro VIP

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    except how would you get the sp to use cancer
     
  10. afterburner0128

    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    cant be cancer abuseable Strength and Def min are too high
     
  11. RamonaFlowers

    RamonaFlowers Legendary Adventurer CHAMPION

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    • +3000 raw melee
    • +130% exploding
    • +35% melee
    • +45% fire def
    • +1000 health
    • 2000-2800 elemental Earth damage
    • 115 Strength requirement
    • Debuffs aren't punishing except for the raw spell debuff of 1.5k-3k, but that doesn't really matter since your melee is almost 6000 raw if maxed coupled with high exploding and fire defense
    • Weapon is already super slow, having attack speed debuffs isn't gonna make a difference.
    • Come on, only -2/4mr max debuff?
    • Only -35% walkspeed debuff? You'll still move at a moderate speed.
    • Also, your weapon is a combination of Grandmother, Ignis, and Stinger. 2 mythic weapons plus an insane legendary weapon.
    This isn't underpowered. The buffs and less punishing debuffs would make you practically hit like a nuclear warhead with each shot and you'll launch another one quicker than Asians in a math test. Yes, mana regen may be important for Archer, but having only a -2/4 mana regen debuff is still gonna make it regen at a medium pace.

    Athanos
    Super Slow Attack Speed

    Neutral: 800-1300 Earth: 1200-2000 fire: 800-1200

    Class Req: Archer/Hunter
    Lvl Min: 97
    Strength Min: 115
    Defense Min: 50

    -26 tier to -39 tier attack speed
    +150 to +650 melee dmg
    +13% to +39% exploding
    -2600 to -3900 spell dmg
    -17/4 to -30/4 mana regen
    +3% to +13% melee dmg
    +3% to +13% earth dmg
    +3% to +13% fire dmg
    -300% to -1300% walk speed
    -235% to -450% water def
    -235% to -450% air def
    +13% to +39% fire def
    +15% to +25% earth def
    +130 to +390 health
    -25% to -50% soul point regen

    Mythic Item
    A once shining land was crushed by the fire that engulfed it, a seemingly harmless bow sunk below the fiery abyss, where it became fuelled with rage and destruction, arrows shot can dest


    There, its slightly more balanced. I'm not the best at item-balancing, so if anyone can rework on this it would be good. Now this weapon isn't abusable, powder slots are removed, now with harsher debuffs and ensures you won't be physical One Punch Man.
     
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    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    I really dont feel like the Nerfs make it balanced, more weak the MR and WS Would take a serious toll on the weapon, The Exploding nerf is too much, especially since its supposed to replace bomb, melee dmg + is supposed to be just like taurus, everything else i might consider
     
  13. e!

    e! ⁣e HERO

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    DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS LITTLE LINE CAN DO??
    If one were to put 2 tier 6 earth powders and you have a good melee build, THE DAMAGE CAN REACH FUCKING 300 000 PER 1 FUCKING QUAKE! IT TAKES ONLY 3 SUCCESSFUL SHOTS TO CHARGE IT UP WITH THIS BOW! 3 HITS WITH THIS BOW + 1 QUAKE WILL 100% MURDER EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ENGAME BOSSshfd sgjdgfjdgfjgds GDJDGJhgjhsgfJHM GfjsddfssdiuyUKFkut78233566rdfasutrfustfs
     
  14. afterburner0128

    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    only 150,000k quake :V and its supposed to Tank kill and if you can get those 3 shots
     
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  15. DrX2345

    DrX2345 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I feel like it should have -4/4 mr at most (least? Idk), because this is such a Melendez based weapon. What would this do with bomb arrow? Also, I think it should have something like -100% soul point regen, just because. Apart from that, from what other people are saying, I think it could be fairly balanced for a mythic, although the damage is pretty insane.

    Wait: I forgot about the quakes.

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    Lolwut? The arrows can dest. Get dested m9.
     
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    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    bump 10char
     
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    Still, more OP than any damage glitches (on mobs) that ever happened on wynn. You can easily kill Qira with just 1 or 2 quakes on this weapon. And it's really easy to get those 3 shots because of all the spiders around.
     
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    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    still trying to balance dmg xD hopefully i can balance the bow enough to not make it underpowered, trying to make it 5-6 quakes to kill an insanely high health boss as long as if you can get the quakes and the shots accurately then it will be a massive punish. But im still trying
     
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  19. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    This is with a max damage build (afaik), with war scream, 99% rage (idk if it stacks, if it does this will be even more) and optimal skill points with 1 dex, so you can actually get a crit.

    What the actual fuck.

    EDIT: Also, the -spell damage is quite insignificant, you can still easily get 13k+ bombs with the weapon.

    EDIT 2: 33k bombs with this build and 75k arrow storms.
     
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  20. afterburner0128

    afterburner0128 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    i got some work to do xD Also, this is a archer, No war scream or rage
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    Added negative % Spell dmg -75% to -95%
     
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