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Make Pure Better

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by General Skien, Jul 25, 2017.

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  1. sdkgjnio

    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    The community has hated Pure for ages. We can safely say that it's at least crossed Salted's mind to buff it (and only Salted can do this, as it's a mythic), and he hasn't done it, for whatever reason. I would recommend adding the specific changes you want, with the full updated stats, IDs and requirements, possibly explaining how you anticipate its use.

    Personally I don't see the point in low-level mythics. Basically nobody finds a Mythic at low levels during normal gameplay. This means that Pure, Az and Archangel are only really found found by people who no longer have any use for them. Mythics are so absurdly rare that having them at low levels makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    tbh i think pure would be fine if you just buffed the damage. maybe multiply the base damage by 2-2.5 ish or smth, but lower the melee damage even more. i do like the idea of having mana steal even it does no damage so that u still have to use basic attacks.
     
  3. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    I think what the real problem is that only Salted can edit Mythics. Which is incredibility stupid. It's like totalitarian rule, where goverment dicides everything.
    I think Selvut should be able to edit or even make Mythics since he's very adept at the job. While Salted time and time again had made really shit mythics.
    The big problem is, becouse they're so rare, and as selvut stated "while legends are this best equipment you can get, Mythics are meant as a ultimate jackpot" (I don't rember the exact words). So it's not good for Mythics to be mediocore.
     
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    The only things I can think of is either
    a. Add 1 or 2 powder slots, so it would work more like Specialist or Karma

    b. Change % spell damage to like a base of 500 (not sure what amount would fit for level 65) raw spell damage and remove the base damages. It will be perfect for it's level because there are bosses like Bob's Reincarnation and Amadel who have a lot of elemental defense. With max spell damage it would deal a consistent 2600 damage per meteor that ignores elemental defenses.
     
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    oppi1000 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    You could also make it faster for some spell multipliers. I do agree with powders though.
     
  6. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account

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    well its not like 90% of mythics need balancing
    not at all
     
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    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    Pure should have base damage somewhere between it's current damage and etheral's damage.
    So aproximately, 4o for water and air I'd say.
     
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    SeaOfPoison Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    Oh piss off

    Az is meh at worst 26 levels after 74
    Apoc is amazing even at level 100
     
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    oppi1000 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    And Archangel has enough damage that it could be a 90+ rare or something.
     
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    That's because there is so many glitches that are making Apoc stronger and stronger (attack speed abuse, life steal triggering on explosion and war scream, how OP the courage is, warrior's base defense stacking with defense skill points and resistance from war scream making warrior completely immune to neutral damage).
     
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    Stag2004 I lost my faith in humanity long time ago

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    2 negative life steal why
     
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    SeaOfPoison Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    People who say apoc is only good because of glitch abuse annoy me so much,

    Sure the defense stuff but thats with warrior in general

    Attack speed is not a glitch........

    I don't even use warscream lifesteal

    It will take months for them to fix lifesteal exploding, i can admit its quite op however apocalypse will still be amazing if all of this gets patched,

    most people who scream at warriors for being bad and being glitch abusers haven't even played them or used mythics known for abuse

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    I am not saying that warrior is a bad or broken class, it's actually pretty fun class and would've been the most balanced one if not for the glitches. What I'm saying is, once the glitches are fixed (soontm) Apocalypse wouldn't be as great for end game as it would be for its level. I don't think it was ever meant to be able to shred trough any bosses and heal enormous amounts of HP at the same time. Anyway, this thread is supposed to be about how to balance Pure, not Apocalypse.
     
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    It's 65
    Fuck.
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    The new stats on it aren't very doable with the element combo pure uses. Assuming we'd keep the base dmg of pure rn it'd deal insane damages, because of very fast. Raw spell doesn't fit because it's a thunder/water type of id, most of the time. The -walk speed doesn't make sense, isn't pure a water/air wand? And where is the negative melee, is this able to melee too? Jesus.

    Those 2 powder slots would be totally overpowered, imagine that broken damage being tripled by curse...

    This buff is illogical and broken, please don't.
     
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    SgtClips Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    The easiest thing to buff pure is either base damage or 1-2 Powder slots (2 would be huge though)
     
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    Stag2004 I lost my faith in humanity long time ago

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    Just give it 4 powder slots and its god tier
     
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    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    If Pure had one powder slot then we wouldn't have problem with elemental abilities.
     
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    Nesaak Good boy HERO

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    Holy shot that +regen makes it a crappy guardian, plus raw regen is irreverent on mage, -2/4 lifesteal is nothing. All these changes are kinda irrelevant to it besides the spell changes which would require people to REID there already max pures, all you need to do is increase the base dmg.
     
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    Salted: "But that would make Mythics actually useful!"
     
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    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    Here you go!
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    Also... -2/4 life steal? What difference is that going to make? Why is it there? Why did you remove the -melee damage? That change is just baffling.
     
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