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Game Design Archer

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by ThomAnn100, Jul 18, 2017.

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Should archer be buffed in the ways I proposed in the thread?

  1. Yes

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  2. Yes, but with some changes(say what should be changed)

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  3. No(tell me why not)

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  1. ThomAnn100

    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    Archer
    Hello fellow nerds!
    As most of you guys know, archer is currently the worst class ingame.
    In wynncraft there are two classes that require a lot of skill, and those are assassin and archer.
    Assassin requires a lot of skill but if you are good at it you'll be able to deal large amounts of damage.
    But archer doesn't have this. This is because a couple of reasons. In my opinion the problem with archer isn't it's spells. I think the problem lies at its survivablity and its options to deal damage in the endgame.
    So here's the things I think should be changed about archer.


    Survivablity
    Okay let's get straight to the point, correct me if I'm wrong but the current base defence of archer is 60%.
    In my opinion this is way too low and should be buffed to 75%. This way you'll be a bit more tanky but you're not really a tank yet.


    Mythics
    Archer doesn't have a lot of endgame options to deal a lot of damage, so I'm going to go over all of it's mythics and give my opinion on how they should be changed.
    Stratiformis: It's honestly fine
    Spring: Spring is pretty decent
    Grandmother: This one is bad, it should just get more base damage.
    Ignis: Not that good right now but would be viable with a base defense buff for the class.
    Az: Good enough for a low level mythic.
    Freedom: I don't know much about this one, maybe a little bit more damage.

    Okay that's it I hope you all enjoyed reading my suggestion. Let me know what you think in the comments.
    (Sorry if there are some spelling mistakes, English isn't my native language.)
     
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  2. bloww

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    tl;dr archer does as much dmg as the other classes, has the worst mythics and has a free 40% defense drop
     
  3. ThomAnn100

    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    yeah basicly
     
  4. bloww

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    also

    strati is the most op shit ever, it needs a dmg nerf

    spring is pretty broken, the dmg should be reduced a bit

    gma is good but the drawback is too high for its "low" damage (water and air mythics do more than an earth mythic, what)

    ignis is fine but fire archer is shit

    az is fine, its one of the best bows and its lvl 74

    freedom needs a bit more damage
    also rainbow tanks are killing it but pve wise its decent
     
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    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    I don't support most of his perticular changes.
    I don't think a defence buff is really needed, it couldn't hurt but meh
    I don't support any of his mythic changes.
    I would like an archer buff, but not this
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    But what do you think that should be buffed?
     
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    Archer doesn't need these buffs
    I think archers weapons can do a lot of damage
    also, if you didn't know, each class only gets a certain amount of base skills (13 total can be used in base skills i think) but then this will make archer exceed this value. Maybe the reason why it has such low defense is because of its range makes it so it gr8 for camping lol.
    either way i guess it could use a bit more damage, but bomb arrow and arrow storm can do a lot of damage, so i don't really think its needed
     
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    but other classes can do just as much damage without the 40% defense drop
     
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    Ignis is good in concept it would be good on any other class (it's basically a better version of guardian but on archer)
    Archer would be more balanced if it had more defense all the other classes have way more defense than it and basically makes them Immortal. I understand why it has low defense because your supposed to snipe but 3/4 spells require you to get close to your enemy's to use them (Escapes smash thing, Arrow Shields arrow shield, and if you want arrow storm to even do a decent amount of damage you have to be right next to the enemy) which one defeats the purpose of having low defense and two makes it so you have to use arrow bomb or melee if you even want a chance of surviving
     
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    Nah I don't think archers should be buffed, with its range its good enough. And I think they do enough damage already.
     
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    Okay I changed the mythic part. Is it good now?
     
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    In all of this you neglect to mention the archers range, you can just run around with decent ws and use spells to kill stuff...
     
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    Archer's biggest problems are it's arrow shield and low defense. Arrow shield needs to be nerfed, while it's defense needs to be buffed or changed drastically. Ideally, all classes should take the same amount of damage, but their abilities and/skills would also give drawbacks. In the case for archer, one abilty could buff damage, but at the same time decrease its accuracy. Or your escape spell would give you speed, but also decrease your defense. Just throwing ideas, but this would require such a rework of the combat system that I doubt it would happen.
     
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    But you'd still get hit by mobs, and die due to lack of defense.
     
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    @Ascended Kitten Can you ask me why you voted no so I can improve the suggestion?
     
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    Archer is supposed to be a glass cannon. But at this point it's more of a glass watergun
     
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    The problem is that Archer and Assassin have similar base DPS on their weapons, but Assassin's spell multipliers are much higher and more consistent. For example, Bomb arrow deals 250% damage, while multihit deals 420% (at least it SHOULD, but currently it's broken and only deals 320%). And while yes, arrow storm does deal up to 600% damage, the chances of reaching that are insanely low, and that damage is only towards one target, while smoke bomb deals 540% to multiple mobs, AND is much more consistent and has a higher range. Also, I find it wierd that only ONE archer spell has more than ten bocks of range. And Archer's weapons have similar and oftentimes lower DPS than assassin's. For example, Cluster has 700 base DPS, while Black has 800. And torrential tide has a rather low 602 DPS while Brass brand has 676.
     
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    I think archer having a bit lower dps than assassin is fine, as archer has range. But I do think the the fact archer spells have a low range and inconsistent spell damage is unbalanced.
     
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    The problem is that they have all three; the only actual ranged spell they have is Bomb arrow, their melee attacks have spread that makes it hard to aim them accurately, and their spells are all situational save for Bomb Arrow, and even then all the bomb arrow's bounces makes it hard to aim beyond the first attack
     
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