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World Mythic Thunder Bow Suggestion!

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Chigo_, Jun 7, 2017.

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Add this bow?

  1. Yes, add this.

  2. Meh, idc if its added or not.

  3. No, this bow is garbage.

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  1. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    me and @Gigavern thought of this thunder bow so please leave feed back, and yes these are base id's

    Thunder Bow.PNG

    and what is there more to add? its a simple mythic bow suggestion.

    Thing is in actuality with a build this bow can't get much better? Cancer-Taurus is about as good as it gets as you said, but...

    (Build for Reference):

    Cancer
    Taurus
    Hephaestus-Forged Greaves
    Disco

    Prism x2
    Prowess
    Gigabyte

    Spark (What I'll call the bow for now)

    Using Flameshot Hilt, people still get the same damage per hit at the same attack speed despite not having the damage penetration when up against Qira whose element defense is incredibly high. The Damage Penetration on Raw Damage does not mean much in practice in terms of Melee.



    In the video, the build does about 2-3k damage per hit against Qira WITHOUT powder specials, skill pots, or Centipede. (replacing it Phoenix Prince Crown) (The occasional 500 damage is from Smoke Bomb.)

    As for the defenses,

    Cancer Taurus requires an absolutely massive amount of skill points, putting 105 (110 with bow) in Dex and 90 in Str without reaping any of the rewards. (Damage Boosts from Skill Points don't affect the damage and neither do Critical Hits) This means that the build only gets 25 to 33 int, 33 Def, and 33 Agility, leading to it being unable to defend itself from most attacks, as opposed to the Flameshot Hilt Melee build which has 100 in Defense (protecting it heavily from neutral hits).

    Element Defense-wise the build has

    200 (Taurus) + 100 (Prism x2) and -10% (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 20% (Prisms) = 300 and 10% = 330 Earth Defense

    200 (Cancer) + 225 (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 100 (Prisms) and 10% (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 20% (Prisms) = 525 and 30% = 682.5 Thunder Defense

    -50 (Taurus) + 100 (Prisms) and -10% (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 20% (Prisms) = 50 and 10% = 55 Water Defense

    -50 (Taurus) + 225 (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 100 (Prisms) and 10% (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 20% (Prisms) = 275 and 30% = 357.5 Fire Defense

    -200 (Cancer) + 225 (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 100 (Prisms) and 10% (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 20% (Prisms) = 125 and 30% = 162.5 Air Defense

    Generally speaking this is average Element Defense wise for most builds that look after their defenses. Due also note that being an Archer mythic, it also has Archer's base defense AKA 60%, which means it takes 40% more damage from attacks.

    As for the mobility,

    20% (Hephaestus-Forged Greaves) + 8% (Gigabyte) + 15% (Disco) = 43% ws

    43% * 1.6 = 68.6% with Escape's Speed Bonus.

    This build is hardly more mobile than most melee builds.
     
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  2. hmtn

    hmtn Archivist of the Realm

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    *does math*
    Hey, at least this works out, in melee, to a nice ~4440 dps!
    WITHOUT POWDERS. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

    Also, props on the name. Never seen anything better. creativity 10/10 we are but mites to this boundless potential.
     
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  3. CoolVictor2002

    CoolVictor2002 Dead meme expert,cyberbullied by NicBOMB

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    this looks like the minimum stats.. maybe buff it?

    edit:i got sniped maybe not
     
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    i love the name, very creative!
     
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  5. orange0402

    orange0402 I got exposed by pyro VIP

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    This kinda looks weird for thunder. Thunder is supposed to be inconsistent but this now just keeps getting 720-760 superfast
     
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    btw the ls needs to be 50/4s not just 50. Same goes for ls
     
  7. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    these are base ids.
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    shyt also forgot another stat.
     
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  8. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    I'll say it again, just because Az is lackluster for endgame doesn't Archer needs a 7th Mythic and screw up the Mythic weapon pattern: 5 Mythics per element + an odd one out.

    If Salted wanted Az to be endgame-viable, he could just increase it's level requirement so that it's more justified for a buff. (Besides Strati, Archer mythics in general are a little underwhelming right now, Mythic rebalance plz Salted)

    As for the item itself, it's creative I guess, but it has a couple things wrong with it such as having the +tier attack speed ID, which is basically useless as it's already super fast.

    For now just put Thunder powders on Cluster and Hive bow.
     
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  9. NamesAreHard

    NamesAreHard Mage Enthusiast (She/He/They) CHAMPION

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    the poison shouldn't be 400 whenever something is poison it would be 400/4
     
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    Hephaestus Hypothetical Build Maker | Avos Air Arceus VIP+

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    Cancer/Taurus thunk


    also this looks kinda broken :/
     
  11. del fire spear

    del fire spear summitsun

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    anyway u know items almost never get added in, it would be quite SHOCKING if this was the exception.
     
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  12. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    Fixed the bow.
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    explain how its broken?
     
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    hmtn Archivist of the Realm

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    Negative Id's? not a single one.
     
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    williamszr98 Cyberpunk 2077 have less bugs than this update VIP+

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    So like this is a really bad Az? Since attk speed don't go over superfast.
     
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    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    spell damage
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    archer wont hit that many arrows in a row.
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    if it can be used correctly its better.
     
  16. williamszr98

    williamszr98 Cyberpunk 2077 have less bugs than this update VIP+

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    Is kinda like a Cluster almost. Maybe lower the level of it instead of level 97.
     
  17. Hephaestus

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    Use thunder melee Cancer/Taurus style and you get 2500 super fast raw damage = piercing hits, along with very good defenses/health and poison/lifesteal.

    This also happens to be what seems like the only thing the bow can be used for. Focusing purely on raw damage restricts a weapon too much.
     
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  18. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    go harass @Gigavern it was mainly his idea I only added the mana steal and raw spell.
     
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    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    No, we already went through the warp business. This would unbalance
     
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    add some debuffs. Like others have said, a cancer + taurus combo would be very op
     
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