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Game Design Soulpoints Hate

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by ?!, May 28, 2017.

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Is soulpoints a piece of shit?

  1. yes

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  2. no (comment why)

    32 vote(s)
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  1. ThomAnn100

    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    But if there were no soul points, the best ID in the game, soulpoint regen, would be useless!!
     
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    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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  3. Geodeath

    Geodeath Skilled Adventurer

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    What bout making a Grave at the point of death, old runescape had a death penalty system where you drop all your items on death (idk about the new one since i havnt played it since they updated it), then they added a headstone system where it saved the loot you lost for a certain amount of time till it despawned, or if u died again the old grave despawned and being replaced with a new one.

    As a casually player i can see how the soul point system can be pretty harsh to other casual/new/non-grinder players, now idk how the penalty system picks what to drop as im still fairly new to the game, but when i experienced the chat telling me you have died and dropped these items or emeralds, i quickly ran back to my death area and noticed there was no way to recover them, i honestly expected them to be floating there scattered on the ground waiting to despawn like in vanilla minecraft. Ive experienced powders, potions, dungeon keys, and teleport scrolls drop, but have yet to see equipment. Honestly if i had farmed mobs for like lets see a few hours and finally got a complete armor set i would be super pissed off especially since there isnt a way to recover them.

    Also if what i have read is correct and the amount of soul points is connected to how much/what is dropped, i dnt realy like the idea of having teleport scrolls use them as a resource. Its super unnecessary and hinders the player (aka players who die to much), i mostly say this there are times where im to lazy to walk from city to city (or dungeon) and would rather just teleport back and forth with the scrolls. But because im still new to the server i havnt done that yet (also as a 28 archer i got a 3 min speed boost when i use escape).

    I do have a question though do items that have been identified/equipped or for weapons/potions in the hotbar drop, cuz if this is true a revamp of the death system would be really appreciated.

    Also having emeralds auto turn into emerald blocks once they hit 64 stack would be nice, ive been sacrificing emeralds when im not near a city to make room for Rares/legendaries/set/potions/dungeon key items (been really lucky so far with my drops after getting the boots from underwater quest).
     
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  5. Ranch_Ou_Veau

    Ranch_Ou_Veau Well-Known Adventurer

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    Clearly not. When we start the game mobs are just too easy to kill, except for the small ones when we are Archers, but you can easilly go farm XP to be better and loot stuff to not die. It's not complicated at all.
     
  6. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    This wouldn't work for wynncraft, unfortunately. First, it would be too hard to code, and second you'd just constantly die trying to get to the headstone
     
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  7. Geodeath

    Geodeath Skilled Adventurer

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    first id like to say i acknowledge your comment

    second, saying this wouldnt work for wynncraft and that its to hard to code, tells me nothing. the way soul points are i could say the same to you that it " doesnt work for wynncraft " cuz like you dnt seem to like the gravestone idea , i also am not realy liking how punishing it is that stuff i farmed drop out of my inventory on death cuz i decided to reroll my stats so i could wear some new gear or weapon i found, or used 2-3 teleport scrolls to get to different towns so i could lessen the distance i needed to walk to get to certain areas/dungeons thus increasing the chances of important items dropping at random amounts. Ill honestly say i rarely ever check my soul point count whenever i die/reroll/tele, unless i get a prompt saying not enough soul points (i dnt even notice when im prompted that regened a soul point). They made soul points a resource for rerolling and teleing with scrolls (which also cost emeralds to purchase) with which each time you use them increases the drop chance of the items in you inventory.

    Next bout it being hard to code, if you are refering to integrating this into wynncraft, sure if you didnt want to force the players to have to download the already made mod for minecraft, while also having to change the way deaths in dungeons work as those carrying keys wouldnt have them anymore once they get stored into the gravestone while you respawn outside of the dungeon. Im sure given time the wynncraft team could make their own version just like the way they integrated soul points, also id like to add if they ever thought of keeping armor and weapon durability and just stopping the part where when it breaks it disappears from the inventory and adding that when its at zero durability its loses it function ability. From my pov if they added this due to abuse of the /kill command i understand but it seems not to thought out and should be expected to see complaints/criticism.

    Now onto the part of just constantly dieing just to get to the headstone, well yah thats to be expected but having that chance to retrieve what you lost can be better then losing it all cuz a mistake like getting cornered or aggro to many mobs, dieing in the dungeon to much cuz your soloing it. Example dark souls games they give you a chance to retrieve the souls you drop but due to the difficulty of the game its expected for you to die while trying to retrieve them.
     
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  9. Geodeath

    Geodeath Skilled Adventurer

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    If u thought i was talking about item stats then i think u miss read what i wrote, i was talking bout character stats which do cost soul points to reroll
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    They do that for this very reason; you shouldn't be able to just reset your skill points whenever you want.
     
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    Geodeath Skilled Adventurer

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    so charging emeralds for stat reset or any other option was off the table besides soul points which dictate what drops out of your inventory on death for each missing point.
     
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    It used to cost emeralds


    It sucked.
     
  13. NamelessGhoulAir

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    You can reset your skill points with emeralds by buying a scroll from Tower of Amnesia that costs 6EB, so your point is not valid.
     
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    Moss shoutbox meme supplier

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    i lost my gear cause i didnt wait for my sp to recharge. plz remove sp
     
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