My Wynncraft Experience/toughts/rant

My Experience

Hello there!

I might seem new to the community, but I'm in fact a quite old and experienced member of the Wynncraft community, so I totally have the right to reivew the server from my perspective. I'm going to talk about the new update, and how it has influenced the server and community as a whole. I will talk about what I like, and what I don't like about the new update, and I'll come with suggestions on how to make the game overall better. I will personally choose to start out with my experience on the Gavel update, and then later on add my review on the server as a whole.

> Also! I shouldn't really have to say it, but theese are just my opinions. Feel free to disagree, but don't be a bitch about it.

I remember a long time ago that I was really excited for the Gavel update they were talking about. New quests, levels, weapons, armors, mobs ... yet I still got tired of the server, since I'd basically done everything. I had a white horse, full endgame armor, tons of Liquefild Emeralds. I lost interests in the game itself, but decided I would return to check out the new Gavel update, and work it out from there.

It turned out that I was abit late to the Gavel party, and I got quite a bad start in it. I connected, just to find out that my armor was trown into my full inventory because it wasn't vertified, trown out important stuff like my white horse and LE's and if it didn't top it all of. I wasn't able to use any of my weapons. I got half my stuff vertified with the emeralds I got left, and told the forums about my problem, yet the staff members was ordered to not give any resources back to me, since I was too late to tell about this. They told me to create a user from scratch, and so I did.

It wasn't nearly as fun as it used to be. The resource pack had ruined the charm of the buildings and terrain, and it felt more like redoing a worse version of the exact same quests. The sprinting bar made it absoulutely awful to move around the map. Especially if you were playing assasin. That kept on reminding me how much more valuable a horse would be, but then again. Wynncraft tok it from me. The old charm and adventorous feeling of the server was gone.

It was also insanely disapointing to see that armor skins were removed, and replaced by the new texture pack. Sure leather, gold and iron armor was okay enough, the diamond armor was absoulutely awful looking. Thanks God I got VIP tho, so I can disguise and hide the look of it, because damn it hurts to look at.

I was also really disapointed with the ''skill'' system. Certain armors required me to use spesific skill combinations for it to be usable. Dang, that sucked, since I now was unable to create unique loadouts, and instead use the exact copy of what everyone else did. ''Hey, I want to max out my strenght!'' Yet the armor only let me upgraded my agillity to fucking 60.

I also noticed that people who had done the endgame quest: Bob's Reincarnation and earned their Bob weapon (depending on class) before Gavel update, actually would have their weapon rewards broken. I literally can no longer use my Bob's Mythical Wand whatever I do.

The only thing that kept me playing because of that, is the fact that I got quite a lot of friends that are new to the server, so I'm basically playing with them to guide them trough it. Still I just get sad when I connect to my old favourite server, since it keeps reminding me of what I've lost, and whats removed. It feels like someone dropped a nuclear bomb in your city, and you'd have to remember how nice it used to be before the impact.

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Toughts on the update

Since I haven't got time to level up to 100, I can't tell all about it, but I will tell about what I currently knows about it.

The update added so much more to explore.
Once you get used to the entire map, and know where everything is, it isn't much more to do instead of giving random new players some stuff to better their experience. Gavel fixed that by adding new land, wich is what I was most hype about since the beginning! I think that many of the new mobs I've experienced (from my small peak at Gavel) is really cool, and thats what I absoulutely loved about it!

New quests.
Once I was new to Wynncraft, I wasn't really doing quests that much, so I started doing them more and more once I closed in to level 75. That made me have to do some random level 5 quests at level 70+ wich was quite boring. Now, Gavel has added more quests, and again made us able to do and experience so much more!

More Alive.
Everyone who has played before the update realease knows that we just had to deal with golems and villagers as NPC's before. If you were attack by a bucnh of mobs, and was running to the golems for help, they would just look at you with their cold, red dead eyes. Now there are much more different NPC's and it seems like they got more of a personality. Oh and guards actually do something for once! Atleast you love them until they steal your kill.

Armor System redone.
By forcing people to pay shit tons of gems to wear armor and replace their skilltokens, it really added a worse feel to the server. Before you was able to pick up and wear whatever armor you wanted, granted that you were in high enough level. Now you can just use them if you:
1. Vertify them.
2. Have a high enough Level.
3. Have your skills set in a spesific order.
This honestly ruins so much of the joy of the game, and you feel like you have much less freedom to do your thing. What made Wynncraft unique before was how everyone experienced the adventure of the server differently. Now you're forced to do the excact same thing as everone else does.

Random Barrier Blocks.
I'm not sure who ever tought this was a good idea, but now our freedom to move around is greatly restricted. How fun isn't it to jump from a 100 block high tower? Well, now you can't do that anymore because f*ck you! Once it makes you unable to jump on a bench, it turns more into an annoyance than a feature.

Sprint Bar.
It absoulutely hurt having to stop all the time. It doesn't add a fun aspect to the game. It's just an annoyance. I'm well aware that mana was drain by sprinting before too, but never have it been this bad.

Texture Pack.
Altough someone might like it, it really is a downgrade from the previous skin pack. You don't even have the abillity to replace it without having people running around with random blocks in their hand and hitting mobs with them. If you remove it to get the charm of the builds back, you'll have to deal with a constant spamming chat and people running around with broken weapons.

Lost Stuff.
People that lose all their stuff for something that isn't their own fault isn't right. Thats like removing a persons inventory and place a sign in front of him quoted ''We tok your items because why the fuck not. Oh and the only way to get it back is to start all the way over again! So fuck you!''

I kind of understand that not everyone is getting their stuff back, since tons of people could be lying about it, but you have also ruined the experience of some loyal players and are torturing them by letting them do it all over again, leaving their work for nothing. The people that has experienced this might be with me on this one.

Altough there are some positive changes, the majority is bad for the already experienced ones. For the new players who haven't experienced anything else, it is an awesome update, but for many of us veterans. It has ruined much of the joy of the game. To quickly tell what I'd like to be added, just so I can complete my list:

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Changes

> No more armor restrictions. You shouldn't have to vertify an item to use them.

> No more forced skill building. People should be able to use whatever skill combinations they would like without it having to be restricted.

> Remove or lower the sprint bar so it doesn't drain as quickly. Also, the regeneration of it should be buffed, so you don't have to stand still for 20 seconds.

> Basically remove all barrier blocks if they aren't highly needed. Removing our freedom to jump on a table makes no sense.

> Bring back the old skin texture pack. If there are bugs in it that is needed to be fixed, you should have the freedom to do that, but please. Let players switch off the horrible looking texture pack that currently is without the game beeing completely broken for them.

> People have a right to get their stuff back. Check their playtime, and see how experienced they are. If they got tons of experience trough the game, they are most likely telling the truth.

Other than that, Gavel is absoulutely amazing, and I would really love to explore it, but I just can't when all my stuff is completely broken, so I would love to see this beeing changed. Still, theese are just my opinion, so its up to you all to say what you think about it. I'm sure you will disagree with atleast some of my points, but if you agree or disagree. Leave some feedback why. All around, I think Gavel has a ton of potential that they are restricting trough this, so by adding this, I think we can get to unlock Gavel's full potential and make it more enjoyable for both new and more experienced players.

This was my quick rant on the Gavel update. Have a nice day.

 

mojang made us get rid of it

that's weird, I can use my pre gavel bob's mythic just fine.

no one got anything back

I agree with you on this, now its about the gear you use, it used to be about skill. altho its nice having elements and everyone has strengths and weaknesses now.

please report the random blocks on my hole thread so we can fix them https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/community-project-filling-holes-open-2-closed-99.123931/

get a horse as soon as you can

so you don't like the weapon models?

thing is no one can prove they lost anything and the second the server will return the items to one player they will have to do so for everyone and that will be a mess.

I do kinda miss the old system

they don't force you, there is an item for each build, it wont make sense for you to go with a fire earth skill build and an thunder air gear set

I don't know if you remember but tables used to kill people

there wasn't a previous texture pack, this is the first version of it.

I didn't loose anything, I got a lot of playtime and experience, I could request items such as 10 bob's mythics and a couple of collectibles.

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also requesting /move to feedback

 

1. If you look at the roster of items there are now you'll realise why skill reqs are needed
Identification is a very important part of the economy if it wasn't there inflation would become a bigger problem

2. It's honestly not that restricted and besides, if it wasn't it would be heavily abused

3. Sprint bar works fine, if you want to walk faster I suggest finding some walk speed increasing items

4. Could you give any examples?

5. Armour skins were shut down by mojang, they ain't coming back
Texture pack is fine, you'll just have to get used to it :/

6. No.

This would just create too much work for the moderators and people would eventually abuse it
It would also defeat the purpose of the soul point system which if you didn't know has been recently changed so once you reach 0 you don't lose everything but only have a chance to lose certain items.





Ps. Try not to write in black text :)

 

1. Barriers were put in place because people were using high points as a way to get outside of the map. You also compare a 100 block high tower to a table. That's highly inaccurate.
2. We used to have a refund policy, but due to abuse and a variety of other reasons, we had to get rid of it, even for the loyal players. We aren't "torturing" you. We are saying no to everyone. We have been looking for a solution, but haven't found the best one yet. Here's why I don't agree with your solution:
Play time doesn't equal experience. Heck, you could sit afk in game and be as unexperienced as you were in the first place.
Instead, let's say you said: this person is experienced because they have a lot of high level classes. Okay, then a high level player could say they lost their mythic, when in fact, they didn't. Even the most experienced players can abuse the refund policy, and that makes the game less enjoyable for new players.

3. Here's the issue with giving players the ability to turn off the resource pack:
- When we introduced weapon models and more weapon variants, blocks have been retextured and repurposed. The downside is that when you disable the texture pack, you are killing mobs with a prismarine block, for example. However, the upside is that there would be less loading issues.
- The resource pack is meant to up the experience for players, and to make the item system more efficient.

 

Sprint bar was absolutely needed, because before it was awful and you could only sprint for like 5 seconds before running out of mana and not being able to cast spells anymore.
The resourcepack is really amazing IMO, it adds an unique style to Wynn and I prefer it over the old default vanilla pack!
If there wasn't any armor restrictions, the game would be way too easy, and basically everyone would be using the same set of armor because "it's the most op one" (Remember adamantite, blue mask, crystal and stalagmites?). And you're not that restricted, it's fine. The elements added so much to the game, so that's great.
And barriers? I don't see any of that, except when you try to climb a mountain and get out of the map, or in quests, there are very few barrier blocks...
The identification system is awesome because it adds some mystery when you get an item, and also, you need to get to a town to identify it, and I like that. Besides, the cost is usually pretty cheap except for some end-game items that cost a few EB (which is still pretty cheap, because you sell them for even more EBs)

I do agree about armor skins: they were amazing and all, but Mojang fixed that, because it was actually using a glitch.

 

a lot of this is u just wanting to have the server just the way you like it. Way don't you make a server huh? Every done that? I bet its hard for Salted, Grian and Jumla to keep this running so stop crapping on them.

 

k. Just a few things I want to bring up.
1:What made Wynncraft unique before was how everyone experienced the adventure of the server differently. Now you're forced to do the excact same thing as everone else does.
Okay. I really don't understand what you mean here. Do you remember before gavel, when everyone was wearing one of 2 things:
BlueMask/Adamantite/Crystal/Stalagmites
Or the Champion set?
You can still enjoy the server your own way, but now you have even more possibilities.

2:No more forced skill building. People should be able to use whatever skill combinations they would like without it having to be restricted.
I get what you mean here. Until about lv 80, not ever build isn't supported, but beyond 80, you can be any elemental combo. IF you really like the look of a piece of gear, Reset you skill points and rebuild. its basically free.

3: Lost Stuff.
I think others have put it well. Moving on...

4:Sprint Bar.
I agree, it can be annoying at times, but before, you had to have insane mana regen to even run 20 blocks. This really does just open up more build options

5: Armor System redone.
Ok. this really is 2 main points. your dislike of the skill point issue, and Iding items.
Skill point update. Ive talked about this already, so go look
Emerald costs: If the 20 emeralds to identify equipment is too much for you then you must be REALLLLLLLY cheap. This is only really relevant in the extreme early game.

Ok, now I will talk about your changes...

1: No more armor restrictions. You shouldn't have to vertify an item to use them.
This removes all the uniqueness out of equipment, and the entire elemental system would be destroyed. This allows for HUNDREDS of endgame possibilities, unlike before.

2: No more forced skill building. People should be able to use whatever skill combinations they would like without it having to be restricted.
Once again, This is an early game issue, but its being worked on. Just build however you like to play

3:Remove or lower the sprint bar so it doesn't drain as quickly. Also, the regeneration of it should be buffed, so you don't have to stand still for 20 seconds.
Im for an upped regeneration time, so yea....

4: Basically remove all barrier blocks if they aren't highly needed. Removing our freedom to jump on a table makes no sense.
Ive never really found this an issue. Likely a building mistake.

5:Bring back the old skin texture pack. If there are bugs in it that is needed to be fixed, you should have the freedom to do that, but please. Let players switch off the horrible looking texture pack that currently is without the game beeing completely broken for them.
Ok... Armour skins were done using a backend glitch. they cannot come back. ever, get over it. I see that you are a mage, I have always liked the mage weapon skins the least, but I still think its much better then just a stick.

6:People have a right to get their stuff back. Check their playtime, and see how experienced they are. If they got tons of experience trough the game, they are most likely telling the truth.
most likely telling the truth...
most likely telling the truth....
most likely telling the truth.....
Most likely telling the truth. there is an item that just sold for 43 stax of LE. is there was a refund policy, even if it was fine 99% of the time, all it takes is 5 players CLAIMING they had one of there, to ruin it for everyone.

 

reserved spot

EDIT : nvm you already said everything that was to say...

 

kek

 

Disclaimer: I'm only giving feedback on the changes, I did read the rest tho.

Do you mean identify? If so, that's just part of the item system but and I really like it.

If this would happen, we can just combine armor and stuff without any restrictions which would make the game very unbalanced.

Just no. Mana regen builds would get really overpowered and currently you can just sprint longer that before the gameplay update.

There's no barrier on tables right? And the barriers is so people can't climb over mountains or escape out of the map.

It doesn't look horrible! I think the diamond armor looks cool too. As Salted said in the gavel stream, the texture pack makes the builds look much more lively, removing the texture pack for some people isn't a good idea as things like the spikes would look like repeaters.
Also armorskins were removed because mojang didn't like it, @Selvut283 can you explain it for me?

No, if items were given back to everybody who claims to have lost them, I bet atlest 80% of the people who made claims would be lying. And using playtime as an indicator of who's lying and who's not.

TDLR: I think you're too conservative.

 

I basically disagree with all of this

 

Since everything major has been covered, i'll comment on the stupid petty things

1. the majority of this thread is darker than dern
2. Toughts

 

1. Your ''suggestions'' are just suggestions of things you want changed.
2. Lots of grammar mistakes (understandable, but needs changing)
3. One of the major things that triggered me was your idea on skills. ''People should be able to use whatever skill combinations they would like without it having to be restricted.''
The reason skills and what not were added is to add diversity, and also allows people to make their own builds which keep getting better and better with new updates. With no restrictions, builds and rare items would be useless.

 

I really can't respond to all of you, so I'll just give my feedback on some of your responses.

1. I was not aware that Mojang was the reason armor skins was removed, so I'm sorry to hear that. I was basically just hearing rumors about it beeing incomplete, so they tok it away to work on them.

2. I'm aware of barrier on the mountains so you can't abuse that, but that wasn't what I was refering to. I was talking about how they put barriers on top of bookshelf in quite a few houses, barries over 2x2 windows without glass so you can't jump out from them and such. They force you to just walk on the floor instead of beeing on top of certain buildings or interior.

Yes, I know I didn't have a viable solution to that problem, but still its really damaging for the players who has experienced it, and therefore I decided that it was important to take it into consideration. I'm really hoping for a future solution to this, since its basically depressing playing the server knowing about all that you've lost from it.

https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...-from-before-gavel-cant-be-identified.155923/

https://github.com/Wynncraft/Issues/issues/6761

https://github.com/Wynncraft/Issues/issues/3592

Won't go trough them all, but if your Bob's Mythic isn't indentified, you're unable to reidentify it.

Sure, its okay that there isn't an option that completely destroys everyone else in every aspect, but please. PLEASE don't let it go out over skill combinations. Thats the players spesific abillities. Not the armors. You can rather add weaknesess to the armor itself.

Takes some time to reach that level, and when I do, I won't have any satisfaction with it, knowing that I lost a 4x better one.

I've never said that. In fact, I think they are quite nice. Its the change of blocks that is annoying me.

I completely understand that, but imagine the feeling many of us have to go trough because of this. Thats a problem, and problems should be fixed, however you do it.

Sorry, but I can't really remember that. I have jumped on quite a lot of tables trough my time here.

Gah, I didn't mean it like that. I was talking about the armor skins, sorry if you misunderstood.

I'm aware of that, but its hard finding a solution to this. It really, really sucks. Still its a problem that really got to be fixed.

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1. It is. I stated that this was basically my own opinions, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem.
2. I'm not really used to the english grammar method, and when I have such a large text like this to work with, I don't really bother checking it all for mistakes. It would just have taken too long. Aslong as it is understandable, it is good.
3. Their own builds? Thats exactly how it was before the restriction. Now people have to use the same build as everyone else, and does no longer have the freedom to create their own. A better way of doing this would be to add tons of armors with one spesific purpose, instead of forcing people to follow a spesific build they don't want.

 

Several grammar and spelling mistakes, but you made some solid points. However, I do disagree with several.

 

I joined after gavel so I can't voice my opinions on the old game but mostly I disagree with everyrhing except the sprint thing

 

Some things are subjective, some objective. Agree that wynnpack isn't anything special, to me, and I preferred the old, minecraft look.

However, one thing that I 100% disagree with is removing gear requirements. I could write you down 20 rpg games in a heart beat that have that kind of a system, and it's there for a reason, to prevent builds being overpowered. PvE is too easy as it is, this way making builds is more rewarding and actually requires a few thoughts about it.

 

Oh I didn't know that, such a shame :^(

 

Although armor skins could be re-added if the server upgraded to 1.9, sadly that won't be for a while.

 

armour system
The armour system was redone to make the game more complicated (for the better) and interesting. You shouldn't have the "freedom" to just slap on whatever you want, without any downsides. It adds weakness to every "perfect" build - so the game is balanced and is more enjoyable. Skill points and elements just added more interesting parts to armour. Now you need to think about how you are going to get your build working. Perfect in my opinion.

barrier blocks
I only encounter barrier blocks when I climb high on the mountains, and in quests. Nothing more to it.

sprint bar
This bar is so useful! you don't need a mana build anymore to travel. you now travel as everyone. if you want to be faster - add agility/air. p.s just get a horse

texture pack
Made the game better. it's now way more detailed and has a lot more potential.

summary
I disagree with almost everything if not all of your arguments. It might be you being salty after 2 years or whatever. Wynncraft is updating to try and hold more features, to be more interesting, to be better. the lost stuff thing is now an issue of the past. most people just grew out of it - yea it sucks but they just got over it and started over. and some just stopped playing.

that's all.