Remove The Moderator Applications [ Mod Bait]

Alright. So we all know that mod applications are here, and I thought that the idea was pretty bad, so I thought I might share them because this is the end of wynncraft (The end is coming, repent before it's too late!)

Anyways, firstly, I'm going to take an example from other servers. Some servers I've played on, most staff/mods that applied are power hungry. They are corrupt, and dont care about the real problems, and they only ban if they want to. Incase you are wondering what server this is, it's H*p*x*l. The moderators there apply first and the system is broken. An example is Megwalls, when there was a guild with at least 15 members that used obvious hacks. People made videos, reported them, made it public, and the mods banned no one. People said that if they atleast disbanded the guilds or did a stats wipe they would be pleased, but nothing happened for a month. Im pretty sure 90% of the staff new the problem and did nothing, but when the other 10% found out they got their shit together.

Now lets look at wynncraft. All of the current staff were hand picked, and since they didnt get accepted by applying and didnt ask for power, they arent power hungry. They realize they were put into a position and actually make use out of it. That is a quality wynncraft has, where we dont have corrupt staff.

At the end of the day, I am asking for wynncraft's sake, that we dont have applications. I mean, I dont even know why we need them! All the current staff are good and they know their shit, and I cant remember the last time ive seen someone break rules here.

And... that's it.

 

thats probably because the mods here are soo good at their jobs that there has never been a rulebreaker

 

Exactly! That's why we should stay with them hand picked

 

there have been mods that have broke rules but got demoted

 

I stopped reading after Hypixel. This is not Hypixel and we are no where near similar to them. Also, Wynncraft is never going to pick people they don't trust + mods can always get demoted.
For all I care, remove them or keep them, it's all the same to me, but comparing Wynncraft to Hypixel is unnecessary.
FYI, itsjerryandharry have mod applications, and their mods are actually good. Hypixel is just a shit server.

 

he is comparing the system & staff to hypixel not the server

 

Dont reply unless you read the entire thread

Thanks homie you replied before I did

 

No, he compared Hypixel to Wynncraft.
2 systems are absolutely the same. You apply and they pick the mods, that's the basic idea. However, he indirectly compared 2 playerbases and concluded that because it's bad on hypixel, it's gonna be bad here. That because people are corrupt there, people will be corrupt here. There have been corrupt mods here before, EVEN THOUGH there were no mod applications, so obviously, hand picking isn't perfect either.

There, read it all. Might as well not read it, as you didn't say anything valid as why the mod application system here is bad. Not somewhere else, especially on hypixel, but here.
I'll repeat myself:

This is not Hypixel and we are no where near similar to them. Also, Wynncraft is never going to pick people they don't trust + mods can always get demoted.
For all I care, remove them or keep them, it's all the same to me, but comparing Wynncraft to Hypixel is unnecessary.
FYI, itsjerryandharry have mod applications, and their mods are actually good. Hypixel is just a shit server.

You gave 1 server example, and the worst one there is. It's like buying 1 product from China and saying all products are bad, even from Germany, because yours broke.
There were "trainee mods" that didn't know what they were doing, and got demoted.
There were corrupt mods that got demoted.
I know all that as I was there to witness it.

If you want more credibility for your suggestion, use an example on server that's actually good and got worse because of the similar system. Hypixel was always just bad.

 

Because we didnt have any mods accepted from the forms yet.

Anyways, hypixel is the example I used because it is classic. Zentrela had the same problem, I got banned from the build team because I... I removed a house to make a city less confusing?

Another server with this issue was a small server I played on, where I applied for a mod and got accepted. The player base was like 10 players on at a time, usually 1 mod on at once, and there were like 5 mods.

A mod hated me, said that I used a rapid fire hack, and I got banned. Proof he was power hungry

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So China is the minecraft server network that uses forms, and I said because 1 product was shit, I say chinese products are shit. Ok. I can give 3 examples of shit products and none that are good so I think that I have a right. As for including germany products, all of them seem pretty good because Ive never seen a server with corrupt mods that used handpicked ones. Unless of course, we include a mod that got demoted that was less than 5% of our mods (We had more than 20 mods, right?) so the current system is shit. Aight

 

We're not removing applications unless there is an actual issue with them.

 

Aight, but are you atleast considering my 3 paraghraphs?

 

Yes, I've read what you said and I've considered it.

 

Exactly. Therefore, saying it's not going to work here because it doesn't work elsewhere is not a valid point.
If both of us studied from the same textbook for the same subject, and I got an F from the test, it doesn't mean you will get and F also. It depends on the people.

Again, using a bad server as an example.
Mate, Wynncraft staff are more sensible than that. They are not going to pick 50% of their playerbase to be mods nor going to believe stories without a valid proof.

One more thing:

That wasn't always the case. Things, community wise, got a lot better in the past year or 2. However, when I joined, things weren't the brightest. I still remember to this day when mod told me directly that he/she doesn't care about the Wynncraft. It was right there, on my profile, a mods claim how he/she doesn't care about Wynncraft. So, no, not all mods knew their "shit" nor were good at what they did. There were a lot of problems, a lot. Both systems have their prons and cons, neither is bad nor good, it depends on how it's executed.

Not gonna bother commenting on your last quote on me as you took everything out of context.

I understand your concern, but I don't think it's justified as we are a totally different kind of server with more mature people.

I'll leave this conversation now as I have nothing more to add. Once again, I'm fine with either keeping them or removing them, it's all the same to me, but comparing bad servers to this one is unnecessary.

No hard feelings mate, and I wish you a nice rest of the evening/day. Cheers!

 

never said it was.....

 

I would like to add to this and say that the Mod application thread literally specifies that they're not doing away with the current application system, in fact, the point of the Mod application page is to act as a medium where staff can see who has the most potential, the chances of them actually becoming a mod or not will stay the same, it just makes searching for potential Mods easier for staff.

From the Moderator application thread.

 

the mods are still hand picked, its not a "everyone is welcome" system or "you need to be this high to enter" system. the staff cant notice all the players at once, the applications makes them notice more players suitable for the role.

 

You haven't seen Mineplex, then. Hoo boy, if you've seen and known what goes on there, it would make Hypixel look like child's play.

 

Or because most of the cheaters cheat in minigames. There is not really a point in cheating on this server.

 

(Before this "Rant sort of thing" Thanks for this, I now saw the mod app, but it's closed :P )
Ok. you are saying that mod picking is a bad idea. What you say is that people get power hungry. People may, and they can get demoted. If you are comparing this to high pickle, we are different. Their current player counts are really big, so they need multiple, multiple mods. Not all of them can be really tested if they are fit to be mod. Although here (From what I think may happen) After the app, you may be watched and judged on how you act, how you wrote your app, and other things. The mods are still hand picked, it's just that the players can be found easier and inspected faster. Although all the current staff is amazing at their jobs (Never seen a hacker, in 4 years, ever (May be because of community size, but who knows)), we don't have mods on all the time, and every mod can do something different. As stated, some ban, and others deal with forums. Every mod does something different. Maybe they are looking for mods to fill some gaps. Anyhow, mod apps may be popularity, but it can be great for the community. Give it a try, it may be deleted, it may now. Who knows?

 

I used hypixil as an example because it is a classic example. I mention a few other servers in the replies here