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World Making The ??? Solo-able (read First)

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by GiraffeMemeLord, Mar 4, 2017.

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Do you agree with me?

  1. Agree +1

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    29.0%
  2. Somewhat agree +1/2

    6 vote(s)
    19.4%
  3. Somewhat disagree -1/2

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  4. Disagree -1

    12 vote(s)
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  1. GiraffeMemeLord

    GiraffeMemeLord Has Crab AIDS HERO

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    If you have played wynncraft for a while, you will understand what im talking about. Be me, just finished Fallen Delivery, barely grind off the rest of the level. Gets to level 80 and has 4 quests to do. *sigh*, I do the Thanos vaults and Generals Orders with relative ease. Now I have two behemoth quests to tackle. I can either start the Hardest quest In the game (Qira's Hive), or I can the start The most obnoxious quest in the game (???). Either way its a back braking process. I propose we take some of the coop out of the ??? quest. What I mainly mean by that is removing or altering the start of the quest. How about say, instead of having to haul 3 people into each meteor and standing on a plate, you just pull a switch in each meteor and when all 3 are pulled down its teleports anyone in the meteors to the computer. The player is going to need knowledge on how to get to all 3 meteors regardless in order to finish the quest. After you start the quest its pretty soloable until lab N. I personally find Lab N my least favorite part of the quest. Although the first part of lab N is impossible to solo, I have thought of a way to make the second part of lab N soloable. Instead of having four players navigate around each other, have the player do one color at a time. When the player is done with one color, They gets teleported to the next color, and so on until the puzzle is completed.

    The reason I feel this quest needs an overhaul is because it doesn't work as a stand alone quest. Yes I know it was designed as a community event and a good one at that. As @IgbarVonSquidâ„¢ said, "As a server wide Easter egg hunt, it was super well done, but as a standalone quest; way to much of a hassle" I agree with this statement 110%. Every quest in the game can be done alone or with a party so how you choose. That isn't the case with ???. ??? Requires you to coordinate with other players. Some may say that's a positive but for me that's a strong negative. I've done this quest 5 times (currently working on 6th). Its been a pain every time. 'But why are u doing a quest u h8 so much?' So I can use my 202% xp armor that's why.

    Anyways those were my thoughts/suggestions. Vote in the poll above and tell me your side of the story down below. Criticism is always appreciated and as always. Lots of love -GML
     
  2. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Igbar may be right; but ??? is hardly a quest anymore. It really is a community event now; removing the coop from it will just kill the variety and challenge of it.

    Other than that there are a few issues with your proposed solutions; using levers wouldn't work. Too many things could go wrong, from trolling to server restarts and bad luck. Not to mention that removing some of the coop elements, just to leave in one random coop part is just a pain and doesn't fit with the quest.

    Believe me, I hated doing the quest too, but without the coop the 'quest' would be boring and non-functional. It would remove the point of the entire ??? revamp.
     
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  3. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    we cant use levers in wynn
    also the whole point is to do the quest with others
     
  4. AmbassadorArt

    AmbassadorArt Protesting bad changes since 2019 VIP+

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    I mirror these statements, and in a way the painfulness of the quest makes it that much more rewarding in the end. Also think about it; SO many of Wynncraft's quests can be done solo if you're strong enough so I figure having ??? be soloable would kill its uniqueness. As captainganon said it's more of a community event; thats how it began and that's how it should remain. I remember back when I did the olddddd ??? with three of my buddies, and doing it again with the new ??? made all the madness worth it.

    I see your point, but it won't come to fruition.
     
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  5. _Sephyr_

    _Sephyr_ Obvious satire HERO

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    Or we remove the quest req from the armor...
     
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  6. That_Chudley

    That_Chudley Wynncraft Addict

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    Remove the quest requirement from the armour, remove ??? from the quest book and find a way to have it exist but not in quest form.
    Alternatively, try to make it so that it is possible to do whilst solo-ing. Same with Bob's tomb, it's horrible to be flying through the levels with a class and suddenly have to stop and spend ages shouting in Detlas "Anyone help me open Bob's Tomb" or "Anyone got a class in the yellow meteor?". Whilst I realise that it was intended as a community thing, it's still not fun xD
     
  7. 7Red_Dragon7

    7Red_Dragon7 Try hard HERO

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    i hated doing this quest for the first time loved it the next 3 times and i even help people for free with the lab part so i totally disagree
     
  8. coolname2034

    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    No i love doing this quest! The whole quest was designed around community; we had to work together to actually find the quest, and it requires teamwork. Making it solo able would ruin the creativity. I always enjoy doing the lab N puzzles since it requires lots of coordination and teamwork.
    So yeah, -1 support

    Also, practically best xp armor in game should be HARD to get
     
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  9. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    IF you were there the week after it came out, when the community went mad trying to find all the secrets, you could agree that this should stay as teamwork. It was the only quest that pulled the community together so good, and still the community is trying to find more secrets, such as Ariodos Lab which we found a while ago.

    So no.
     
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