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Grade 3 Arrow Shield Buff / Change (pve)

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by daypxl, Dec 4, 2016.

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Do you support this idea?

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  2. ±0 (No)

    14 vote(s)
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  1. daypxl

    daypxl Exile HERO

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    Simply put, the transition from Grade II to Grade III is a downgrade. It transfers a portion of the spell's damage to a highly situational ability (Arrow Rain) that either rarely hits or doesn't hit at all because you are in an enclosed space.

    I feel like Arrow Rain should either be reworked, or Arrow Shield should have a slight increase in duration for its Blindness effect from Grade II to III. It simply doesn't make sense to reduce a spell's damage from 250% to 150% (a big difference) in exchange for an ability that is borderline useless.

    Thanks for reading, be sure to vote in the poll!

    EDIT: If the ability is already getting nerfed as a whole, at least make Grade III seem like an actual upgrade.
     
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  2. ron111701

    ron111701 proffa CHAMPION

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    Its good enough as it is.
     
  3. captainarcani

    captainarcani That guy that creates crazy WynnCraft theories

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    It's fine plus it's easier to wrek archer with meteor now xD
     
  4. LotKnockMC

    LotKnockMC S̵͚̉i̸̥͔̞̒̕͜n̷̦̹̱͒̈́̚g̶͈̳̙͇͗̾̋̾ͅë̶͔́̌͋ṙ̶̢̧̭͕

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    I can't be entirely sure, but from my experiences the spell multiplier on the first hit stays the same.
     
  5. Kawaii__Turtle

    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    Let me put it this way
    Arrow shield is completely over powered as is, and Selvut plans on nerfing it
     
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  6. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account

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    He's talking about arrow shield
     
  7. Kawaii__Turtle

    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    Woops meant to put shield not storm

    Either way shield is what's planned to be nerfed~
     
  8. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account

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    Oh well I didn't know
     
  9. daypxl

    daypxl Exile HERO

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    Nerfed for what reasons in particular?
     
  10. Kawaii__Turtle

    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    Oh I don't know
    Because it's overpowered as fuck at the moment?
    You could use it as your sole offensive spell and do just fine
     
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  11. daypxl

    daypxl Exile HERO

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    Want to give me valid points that explain which parts of the spell need to be nerfed? I didn't get much from your childishly crude remark.
     
  12. Kawaii__Turtle

    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    1. DEFENSIVE SPELL
    2. With some builds can do as much as Bomb Arrow - your OFFENSIVE SPELL
    3. Quite simply, does way too much damage in comparison to its intended use, knocking away enemies that manage to get close to you

    I don't see what's hard to understand about that unless you've never played the class....
     
  13. daypxl

    daypxl Exile HERO

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    Isn't that better? I just can't come to understand people who justify their points with profanity...
    A nerf to damage I can understand. That doesn't take away from the fact that from Grade II to Grade III there is no beneficial change.
     
  14. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    Not when it costs half your mana bar a cast.
     
  15. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    It deals as much damage at base as your offensive ability, Bomb Arrow, already. It lets you hit for all five elements of damage with solely your spells, which not even Mage, the master of spells can claim. It blinds enemies for a massive amount of time(I've been hit in duels by it, 5 seconds. The page lies, it's way more than 2.) Plus, due to its water, you're encouraged to utilize intelligence to boost it up, and if you do you can spam it and literally juggle enemies above you. Bomb Arrow gets...higher range, essentially, and a mana cost of only two less.

    Arrow Shield needs nothing but nerfs.
     
  16. daypxl

    daypxl Exile HERO

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    I hope you are not solely considering a nerf on numbers. If it's going to be changed this drastically, it needs a rework as a whole. Like I said above, from Grade II to III is a downgrade -- which makes absolutely no sense -- regardless of how overpowered the spell itself is.
     
  17. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Comparing the damage of my Arrow Shield before and after Lv 66 on the testing server, it's the same. The % damage downgrade is a lie, just like the 20% thunder damage on Uppercut.
     
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    chaostitan Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Problem with arrow shield is that it's basically a moving aura of death that people use to ram into bosses with and it does incredibly high amounts of damage.
     
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    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    Stahp trying to nerf my 20k super death killaura, that can't be avoided due to 10 block radius and 150 walkspeed
     
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    chaostitan Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    This sums it up rather nicely.
     
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