Game Design Weapons (pre Hallowynn Patch)

I've noticed an issue with the options different class builds have for weapons in the endgame. I thought it might have just been me, so I decided to take a more in depth look at the issue.

First, I got all the "endgame" weapons for each class, not including mythics. (Level 80-100) (Mythics are not included due to being extremely rare)

Spoiler: Level 80-100 Weapons

Spoiler: Daggers

Slider
Big Arm
Cockleburr
Deserter
Infused Hive Dagger
Liquified Sun
Magmarizer
Nimbus
Pyroclast
Sans
Sreggad
Waterspout
Alazarin
Blur
Copper Knife
Droplets
Mountain Spirit
Pencuri
Quill
Silver
Arakadicus' Maw
Black
Dancing Blade
Nether's Deep
Poison Touch
Rewind
Tsunasweep
Yverlian Blade

Spoiler: Spears

Braker
Bonethrasher
Brimstone
Feedback
Glitchtean
Hammer of the Forge
Ignition
Lost Soul
Poison Ivy
Shield Buster
Tidebinder
Bizzles
Crack the Skies
Frenzy
Infused Hive Spear
Heartache
Magnitude
Praesidium
Tisaun's Proof
Undying
Breath of the Vampire
Cue Stick
Diaminar
Harwrol
Infilak
Nightstar
Relfect
Tower

Spoiler: Bows

Stinger
Demon's Will
Earthsky Equinox
Fog of Creation
Misconduct
Quartzite Bow
Return to Ether
Spiritshock
Awakening
Djinni
Ensa's Resolve
Infused Hive Bow
Jewelled Sinew
Petrified Horror
Slumber
Thunderlock
Cluster
Crescent
Dunesweeper
Flintlock
Fyrespit
Gale's Force
Magnus
Oktavist
Sleeping Beast
Solitude
Storm Caller

Spoiler: Wands

Bonder
Canyon Spirit
Cyclone
Deepwood Root
Lunar Spine
Rainstorm
Squall's Breath
Whimsy
Yggdrasil
Aldorei's Vision
Crystal Thorn
Deathsplinter
Heavenly Wisp
Manablast
Predposledni
Rot of Dernel
Voidlight
Antipode
Cascade
Essence Bastion
Gearbox Stave
Infused Hive Wand
Lightningrod
Magma Chalice
Phoenix Wing
Requiem
Topaz Staff
Windchime

Now, let's remove all the weapons not actually good for endgame, or at least not for what we're focusing on in this thread.

This gets rid of Sans, Sreggad, Quill, Mountain Spirit, Bonethrasher, Glitchtean, Breath of the Vampire, Lost Soul, Solitude, Canyon Spirit, Crystal Thorn, Windchime, and Gearbox Stave. These weapons aren't bad, but they either have direct upgrades at higher levels, or are generic neutral damage weapons any build can use. Those won't change our results. (Sreggad is neither, but it focuses on Thorns and Reflection rather than attacking, which is a story for another thread.)

As a special exception, I will add Wall Breaker into the mix, it may only be level 72 but it sure packs a punch in the current endgame. Not including it would be a disrespect to all earth assassins.

Let's take our updated list, and add all the elemental damage types, and skill point requirement types.

Spoiler: Endgame Weapons + Dmg and Req

Spoiler: Daggers

Slider - Dmg: N
Big Arm - Dmg: N - Req: Str
Cockleburr - Dmg: N E - Req: Str
Deserter - Dmg: N E A - Req: Str Agi
Infused Hive Dagger - Dmg: N
Liquified Sun - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def
Magmarizer - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Nimbus - Dmg: W A - Req: Int Agi
Pyroclast - Dmg: N E F - Req: Str Def
Waterspout - Dmg: N T W - Req: Dex Int
Alazarin - Dmg: N - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi
Blur - Dmg: T A - Req: Dex Agi
Copper Knife - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Droplets - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Pencuri - Dmg: N - Req: Dex
Silver - Dmg: N A - Req: Int Agi
Arakadicus' Maw - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex
Black - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def
Dancing Blade - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Nether's Deep - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def
Poison Touch - Dmg: N
Rewind - Dmg: N W A
Tsunasweep - Dmg: N T W - Req: Dex Int
Yverlian Blade - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Ste Dex Int Def Agi

Wall Breaker - Dmg: N E - Req: Str

Spoiler: Spears

Braker - Dmg: N
Brimstone - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Feedback - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Hammer of the Forge - Dmg: N E F - Req: Str Def
Ignition - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Poison Ivy - Dmg: N E - Req: Str
Shield Buster - Dmg: N
Tidebinder - Dmg: W - Req: Int
Bizzles - Dmg: N E
Crack the Skies - Dmg: T A - Req: Dex Agi
Frenzy - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Infused Hive Spear - Dmg: N
Heartache - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Magnitude - Dmg: N E - Req: Str
Praesidium - Dmg: N - Req: Def
Tisaun's Proof - Dmg: N
Undying - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Cue Stick - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Diaminar - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Harwrol - Dmg: N E A - Req: Str Agi
Infilak - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Nightstar - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Relfect - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi
Tower - Dmg: N - Req: Def

Spoiler: Bows

Stinger - Dmg: N
Demon's Will - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def
Earthsky Equinox - Dmg: E A - Req: Str Agi
Fog of Creation - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi
Misconduct - Dmg: T W - Req: Dex int
Quartzite Bow - Dmg: N
Return to Ether - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Spiritshock - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Awakening - Dmg: E T W F A
Djinni - Dmg: N F - Req: Def Agi
Ensa's Resolve - N W A - Req: Int Agi
Infused Hive Bow - Dmg: N
Jewelled Sinew - Dmg: T W F - Req: Dex Int Def
Petrified Horror - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex
Slumber - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Thunderlock - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Cluster - Dmg: N
Crescent - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Dunesweeper - Dmg: N A - Req: Str Agi
Flintlock - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Fyrespit - Dmg: W F - Req: Int Def
Gale's Force - Dmg: N A - Req: Dex Agi
Magnus - Dmg: N F - Req: Dex Def
Oktavist - Dmg: N E - Req: Str
Sleeping Beast - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex
Storm Caller - Dmg: N T A - Req: Dex Agi

Spoiler: Wands

Bonder - Dmg: N
Cyclone - Dmg: A - Req: Dex AgiDeepwood Root - Dmg: N E
Lunar Spine - Dmg: N W - Req: Int Agi
Rainstorm - Dmg: N W - Req: Dex Int
Squall's Breath - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Whimsy - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Yggdrasil - Dmg: N E - Req: Str Int
Aldorei's Vision - Dmg: N E W - Req: Str Int
Deathsplinter - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex
Heavenly Wisp - Dmg: N W A - Req: Int Agi
Manablast - Dmg: E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi
Predposledni - Dmg: N
Rot of Dernel - Dmg: N E
Voidlight - Dmg: T A
Antipode - Dmg: N W F - Req: Int Def
Cascade - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi
Essence Bastion - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Lightningrod - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Magma Chalice - Dmg: N F - Req: Str Def
Phoenix Wing - Dmg: N F A - Req: Def Agi
Requiem - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Topaz Staff - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex Def

Now for the tough part. Let's take a look at the options the builds have. (In this thread, I will only be looking at weapons for one or two skills, and rainbow. Sorry, but this already took four hours, I'm not adding three-skill builds. Ideally, if a weapon for your three-skill build isn't in the game, there will be three two-skill weapons that cover all your options, such as Misconduct, Storm Caller, and Ensa's Resolve for Water/Thunder/Air Archer)

Spoiler: Assassin

Spoiler: Earth

Big Arm - Dmg: N - Req: Str
Cockleburr - Dmg: N E - Req: Str
Wall Breaker - Dmg: N E - Req: Str

Earth Assassin has 3 good weapon options. Cockleburr is good on it's own with a decent attack speed and powerful hits, and it also allows for spells, where as Wall Breaker is absurdly strong but slow and can only focus on melee hits. Big Arm is like Wall Breaker but slightly faster, and it doesn't completely kill your spell damage. Big Arm requires powders to do earth damage, and has a nice earth damage boost to compliment it, though Big Arm shines more with Neutral Damage.

Spoiler: Thunder

Copper Knife - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Pencuri - Dmg: N - Req: Dex

Copper Knife is a decent option, but better for neutral or earth, and Pencuri requires powders but it sure packs a punch. Not the best options, but it's something. Thunder works better with a second element anyways.

Spoiler: Water

Droplets - Dmg: N W - Req: Int

ehhhhhhhhh? Droplets isn't very good. Good luck with pure water, it's not the worst, but your only option's best use is reflection.

Spoiler: Fire

Magmarizer - Dmg: N F - Req: Def

Not the best weapon, but Magmarizer manages to hold it's own. It might not be the best for fire damage, but the health boost and health regen are really helpful for a tanky assassin.

Spoiler: Air

Dancing Blade - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Silver - Dmg: N A - Req: Int Agi

Silver is good, but it's got an unfortunate intelligence requirement to deal with. Dancing Blade is definitely the better choice for pure air, the super fast attacks and decent walk speed will serve you well.

Spoiler: Earth/Thunder

Copper Knife - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Arakadicus' Maw - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex

Copper Knife shines for a while with earth powders, but gets outclassed at Level 98 by Arakadicus' Maw. Luckily, Arakadicus' Maw covers all your Earth/Thunder needs without negative health regen!

Spoiler: Earth/Water

Oh boy, here we go. The first build with no item. Not to mention, Droplets on it's own is already kinda meh, but it's the ONLY water dagger that works with this build, and it focuses on REFLECTION rather than damage! Good luck going for an Earth/Water build, you haven't really got any options here.

Spoiler: Earth/Fire

Pyroclast - Dmg: N E F - Req: Str Def
Magmarizer - Dmg: N F - Req: Def

Magmarizer works surprisingly well with earth, but Pyroclast is better in most ways. Only use Magmarizer if you need the health boost, Pyroclast is better in every other aspect. Earth/Fire is covered pretty well.

Spoiler: Earth/Air

Deserter - Dmg: N E A - Req: Str Agi

I was very surprised to find an earth air option for Assassin, and a surprisingly decent one at that. Deserter might not be the best dagger, but it will definitely work if you decide to go Earth/Air.

Spoiler: Thunder/Water

Tsunasweep - Dmg: N T W - Req: Dex Int
Waterspout - Dmg: N T W - Req: Dex Int

Tsunasweep can pack a punch. It's melee might not be the best, but it makes up for that in amazing spell power, and mana steal is nothing to look down at either. Waterspout, on the other hand, sacrifices a bit of damage for some mana regen and slightly better water damage.

Spoiler: Thunder/Fire

Liquified Sun - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def
Black - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def
Nether's Deep - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def

You've got the offensive one and the defensive one, take your pick. Black is great for damage, and has amazing spells, but don't let the negative mana regen catch you off guard. Liquified Sun is for the more tanky playstyle, sacrificing some damage for a health and defence boost. Both options work great!
Oh, and... Nether's Deep is there too, I guess. I wouldn't recommend it.

Spoiler: Thunder/Air

Blur - Dmg: T A - Req: Dex Agi

Blur is a very good dagger that covers both of Assassin's most powerful elements. Super fast, great walk speed, and some mana steal, this weapon is all you need.

Spoiler: Water/Fire

Looks like you've gotta go with Magmarizer and Droplets if you choose Water/Fire, there's no other options for either element. Have fun with your horrible weapons! This is an even worse choice than Earth/Water for options.

Spoiler: Water/Air

Nimbus - Dmg: W A - Req: Int Agi
Silver - Dmg: N A - Req: Int Agi
Rewind - Dmg: N W A

Lots of options here, but a bit lacking on the water side of things. Silver requires powders for water damage, but has a nice boost for both elements and will deal good damage, and Nimbus also leans more on the air side of things. Rewind is decent too, but gets a bit outclassed later on. Decent options, but why is water so unrepresented here?

Spoiler: Fire/Air

Heh, good luck with this one. Dancing blade and Magmarizer is all you've got.

Spoiler: Rainbow

Infused Hive Dagger - Dmg: N
Yverlian Blade - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Ste Dex Int Def Agi
Alazarin - Dmg: N - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi

Yverlian Blade is your go to option for rainbow offence, decent damage all around. Infused Hive Dagger is great too, but will take a lot of work, won't be completely balanced for all elements, and requires a lot of powders. Alazarin is the tank option, with great XP bonus to boot.

Spoiler: Warrior

Spoiler: Earth

Bizzles - Dmg: N E
Poison Ivy - Dmg: N E - Req: Str
Magnitude - Dmg: N E - Req: Str

3 different options for 3 different styles. Poison Ivy for, you guessed it, poison, Magnitude for Melee, and Bizzles, surprisingly, has really good spell damage.

Spoiler: Thunder

Feedback - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Cue Stick - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex

Feedback is fast and Cue Stick is slow. They're both great.

...what, you wanted more? What else is there to say, these items are extremely simple!

Spoiler: Water

Nightstar - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Heartache - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Tidebinder - Dmg: W - Req: Int

Tidebinder is definitely your best option. If you can't get it, Heartache is definitely more powerful than Nightstar, but lacks the mana regen Nightstar has. I would use both, but only use Nightstar for the mana regen.

Spoiler: Fire

Brimstone - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Ignition - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Undying - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Praesidium - Dmg: N - Req: Def
Diaminar - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Infilak - Dmg: N F - Req: Def
Tower - Dmg: N - Req: Def

Ohhhhh boy here we go.
INFILAK IS EXPLOSIONS AND THAT'S IT
Tower is a decent tank weapon and a decent health regen weapon
Praesidum is an amazing tank weapon
Undying is an amazing health regen weapon
Diaminar is amazing for damage but super slow
Ignition is great for damage but faster than Diaminar
Brimstone is good for damage but faster than Ignition
IS THAT ENOUGH OPTIONS

Spoiler: Air

Frenzy - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi

Frenzy may be your only option, but it's nothing to scoff at. Great damage at super fast attack speed, and good walk speed to boot. It's good enough for an air warrior to work.

Spoiler: Earth/Thunder

Nothing to see here! You're gonna have to combine earth and thunder spears for this, and it doesn't work very well.

Spoiler: Earth/Water

Nothing here either! And good luck, this is even worse than Earth/Water

Spoiler: Earth/Fire

Hammer of the Forge - Dmg: N E F - Req: Str Def

This spear has a bit of everything you'll need. Defence, Health, Damage, Health Regen, and even some exploding! It's a decent weapon for the build, with a little taste of a lot of things.

Spoiler: Earth/Air

Harwrol - Dmg: N E A - Req: Str Agi

This weapon is better than I expected, it has great damage, boosts defence, and even has health regen! It's the only one of it's kind and it does the job amazingly well.

Spoiler: Thunder/Water

Do I really need to explain this again? No weapons here!

Spoiler: Thunder/Fire

No weapons here!

Spoiler: Thunder/Air

Crack the Skies - Dmg: T A - Req: Dex Agi

This spear is very good despite not being warrior's specialty. Great damage and spells, and the walk speed is a nice touch too. Don't underestimate this one.

Spoiler: Water/Fire

No weapons here!

Spoiler: Water/Air

No weapons here!

Spoiler: Fire/Air

No weapons here! OKAY ARE YOU SERIOUS WARRIOR IS MISSING SO MANY OF THESE IT'S ABSURD OMFG

Spoiler: Rainbow

Relfect - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi

We recently got a rainbow spear, and it's... decent. It's not horrible.......? The elemental damage is so low! It's not trash, but it's not very good either. It has everything it should, but all the stats are so low! It's very lackluster.

Spoiler: Archer

Spoiler: Earth

Oktavist - Dmg: N E - Req: Str

Okay seriously.
Why.
Earth archer get's one bow, that's decent at best.
There are SPEARS that do more damage than this thing!
Please... make it better... or just add another one for the endgame...

Spoiler: Thunder

Thunderlock - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex
Spiritshock - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex

Thunder feels surprisingly underrepresented here. Thunderlock is decent, and Spiritshock is better, but that's the last we see of Thunder on it's own for the entire game. Is Spiritshock the best we get?

Spoiler: Water

Slumber - Dmg: N W - Req: Int
Crescent - Dmg: N W - Req: Int

These bows are super simple. Crescent is better for neutral, and Slumber is better for water. That's it.

Spoiler: Fire

Flintlock - Dmg: N F - Req: Def

This bow suffers from Oktavist syndrome. It's a fire bow, but it's just meh! And there's NO OTHER OPTIONS!
It doesn't even have health regen!!

Spoiler: Air

Return to Ether - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Dunesweeper - Dmg: N A - Req: Str Agi
Gale's Force - Dmg: N A - Req: Dex Agi

And suddenly, archer is amazing again!
Yeah, air is where this class really shines. Definitely use Gale's Force if your build allows it, it's an amazing weapon with great damage and walk speed. Return to Ether is basically Gale's Force but worse, but with amazing XP bonus.
And Dunesweeper is just Dunesweeper, we'll see it again in a few spoilers.

Spoiler: Earth/Thunder

Petrified Horror - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex
Sleeping Beast - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex

Use Sleeping Beast if you don't want to be destroyed by negative health regen, but Petrified Horror is better in every other way. These two should cover all your Earth/Thunder needs.

Spoiler: Earth/Water

Heh, you expected a weapon here? Nice joke.

Spoiler: Earth/Fire

No redemption for Oktavist and Flintlock here.

Spoiler: Earth/Air

Earthsky Equinox - Dmg: E A - Req: Str Agi
Dunesweeper - Dmg: N A - Req: Str Agi

Dunesweeper is only good with earth powders until you get to Level 98. Use Earthsky Equinox as soon as possible, it's a great weapon and is better than Dunesweeper in every way.

Spoiler: Thunder/Water

Misconduct - Dmg: T W - Req: Dex Int

Maelstrom part 1

This weapon is great! The negative health regen hurts it a bit, but the damage output is still absurd with this thing. Go wild!

Spoiler: Thunder/Fire

Demon's Will - Dmg: N T F - Req: Dex Def

Super generic Thunder/Fire weapon, it works, it's good, have fun.

Spoiler: Thunder/Air

Storm Caller - Dmg: N T A - Req: Dex Agi

Maelstrom part 2

This bow might be low levelled, but don't underestimate it's power. Great thunder and air damage, and not much else.

Spoiler: Water/Fire

Fyrespit - Dmg: W F - Req: Int Def

Mostly fire, with some good health regen and a little bit of water damage. The extra mana regen really makes Fyrespit shine.

Spoiler: Water/Air

Ensa's Resolve - N W A - Req: Int Agi

Maelstrom part 3

The damage is great, but this weapon is surprisingly defensive, with the elemental defence boosts and mana regen. Use this to capitalize on elemental weaknesses and for spells.
Also, XP bonus.

Spoiler: Fire/Air

Djinni - Dmg: N F - Req: Def Agi

You'll need air powders for this thing to use that air damage boost, but even without them the bow is still decent. Great neutral damage and decent fire damage, without the negative walk speed of most fire weapons!

Spoiler: Rainbow

Fog of Creation - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi
Awakening - Dmg: E T W F A

Use Fog of Creation if you're actually using a rainbow build, it's better.
But Awakening is still a neat weapon, because it has NO SKILL POINT REQUIREMENT. Meaning any build can become a rainbow with it!

Spoiler: Mage

Spoiler: Earth

Deepwood Root - Dmg: N E
Yggdrasil - Dmg: N E - Req: Str Int
Rot of Dernel - Dmg: N E

Use Yggdrasil if possible, and put water powders on it. Otherwise, do the same with Deepwood Root.
Rot of Dernel is for poison and poison only.

Spoiler: Thunder

Lightningrod - Dmg: N T - Req: Dex

This is a decent wand, but it doesn't really do the element justice. Good damage and IDs, but it just could be so much better.

Spoiler: Water

Lunar Spine - Dmg: N W - Req: Int Agi
Rainstorm - Dmg: N W - Req: Dex Int
Requiem - Dmg: N W - Req: Int

Requiem all the way, Lunar Spine is meh, but we'll get to that later. Rainstorm is only good with thunder powders.

Spoiler: Fire

Essence Bastion - Dmg: N F - Req: Def

LOOK AT THAT HEALTH REGE- oh wait it's mage
It's a decent weapon, the damage isn't bad but it's isn't too terribly great either.

Spoiler: Air

Lunar Spine - Dmg: N W - Req: Int Agi
Squall's Breath - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Whimsy - Dmg: N A - Req: Agi
Cyclone - Dmg: A - Req: Dex Agi

Cyclone is good, and becomes great with thunder powders, Lunar Spine is great but get's outclassed by Whimsy and Squall's Breath. Use Squall's Breath for walk speed, and Whimsy for great damage and XP bonus.

Spoiler: Earth/Thunder

Deathsplinter - Dmg: N E T - Req: Str Dex

This weapon is very unique, it's good for the damage and the negative health regen isn't too bad because it's for mage. I honestly didn't expect this kind of wand to exist for a long time, and I'm super excited to use it soon.

Spoiler: Earth/Water

Yggdrasil - Dmg: N E - Req: Str Int
Aldorei's Vision - Dmg: N E W - Req: Str Int

Use Aldorei's Vision until you hit level 98, then put water powders on Yggdrasil. Both are great wands for a very underused mage build.

Spoiler: Earth/Fire

Magma Chalice - Dmg: N F - Req: Str Def

It's kind of decent? Give it earth powders and it's kind of good enough maybe, At least the health boost is nice and can really be capitalized on with mage's heal.

Spoiler: Earth/Air

HA NICE TRY SUCKER NO WEAPON FOR YOU

Spoiler: Thunder/Water

Rainstorm - Dmg: N W - Req: Dex Int

It's decent with thunder powders, but using other wands is usually better.

Spoiler: Thunder/Fire

Nothing here either, sorry...

Spoiler: Thunder/Air

Cyclone - Dmg: A - Req: Dex Agi

Good without thunder powders, great with thunder powders. A fairly POWDERFUL option.

Spoiler: Water/Fire

Antipode - Dmg: N W F - Req: Int Def

Very average, decent damage, that's about it. The spell damage is kinda good.

Spoiler: Water/Air

Heavenly Wisp - Dmg: N W A - Req: Int Agi
Lunar Spine - Dmg: N W - Req: Int Agi

Oh look, it's Lunar Spine again!
ehh... Heavenly Wisp is better here.

Spoiler: Fire/Air

Phoenix Wing - Dmg: N F A - Req: Def Agi

If you don't want to die, this is your wand. Amazing health boost, health regen, and decent damage for a tank weapon too!

Spoiler: Rainbow

Manablast - Dmg: E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi
Cascade - Dmg: N E T W F A - Req: Str Dex Int Def Agi

Manablast is super powerful but super slow, Cascasde is decent but super fast. Pick your poison, both are great.

Builds that need an endgame weapon:
Water Assassin
Earth/Water Assassin
Water/Fire Assassin
Fire/Air Assassin
Earth/Thunder Warrior
Earth/Water Warrior
Thunder/Water Warrior
Thunder/Fire Warrior
Water/Fire Warrior
Water/Air Warrior
Fire/Air Warrior
Earth Archer
Thunder Archer
Fire Archer
Earth/Air Mage
Thunder/Fire Mage

Builds that could definitely benefit from a better endgame option:
Rainbow Warrior
Fire/Air Archer
Thunder Mage
Fire Mage
Earth/Fire Mage

I guess my point with all this is that, while the goal was to make all builds viable, or at least usable, in the endgame, it's not possible without a weapon to use. It's impossible to fight without the equipment required, and some builds just were forgotten, and left without the weapon they needed to work. Lots of people have complained about this before, but now, there's proof. We need to add a few things to make all the builds viable or usable in the endgame, because what we have right now obviously isn't working.

And I just proved it.



If you read all the way to the end, I thank you. Hopefully my 4 hours of work on this thread will pay off.

 

So first off we're not accounting for armors, which can easily make or break a build, but I'll let this slide, given that it is implied that you are talking about using the optimum armor for that class.

If literally every combination of element has a weapon that is "endgame", sure thats cool, but its always just going to get beaten out statistically by a class that has synergistic advantage. Take "Steam" (Fire/Water) mage. It's going toget beaten by Water/Air mage every day, even with top tier weapons on each.

Also, if every build does the exact same thing, which is what is implied in this thread, then there will be no changing in the metagame. I do admit that PvP is needed, but a mass adjustment of endgame weapons is completely unneeded right now. First we need to make PvP accessible and viable to lower levels than just 80+, for it to be a concern of the magnitude you present it as.

 

What about powders?

 

But all the build at least deserve a fighting chance, no matter how bad the elemental match-up is, they can't even fight without a weapon. Take fire/air warrior, for example. Sure, water would destroy it, but this isn't about PvP, it's about PvE! Warrior has a spell that could benefit so much from a fire/air weapon, war scream, but no such weapon exists in the game, for no real reason.

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Did you even read the thread? For all the weapons that use mainly powders to add a NEW element of damage to the weapon, I mentioned them.

 

In PvE you can do anything with almost any build, the exception being shit builds that misplace soul points past the very forgiving floor. Most endgame require minimal skill as far as PvE is a concerned.

 

Yes of course I read it, I was asking for clarification...I was under the impression that this was open for discussion.

For example, how is a hive bow with 5 T6 thunder powders not an end game archer thunder weapon?

 

He is focusing mainly around base damages I think.

 

You forgot Belcon, it's a earth/water dagger.

 

I used the item guide to do this, that dagger isn't there. I used wynnapps, the desktop item guide, and the official website item guide, and it was on none of them.

 

Yeah cause it was added a bit after the update, you probably missed a few more because they are not on the guides.

 

Just saying, you should add Corrupted Witherhead's bow into the list as it has endgame level DPS (680, which is actually the highest DPS of any thunder bow barring AZ)

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There is a weapon called Hell's scream that is fire air

Again, Corrupted Witherhead's Bow

 

Completely forgot that bow, and Hell's Scream isn't on the item guide either :/

 

This will be helpful.



Mind that myself and Salted are really the only two that make items. Tantibus has made a couple, but I believe only six or seven. Salted generally focuses on shop items, loot-exclusives, mythics, and dungeon rewards, which leaves me with the reins for run-of-the-mill obtainables(items that can simply be dropped by any mob, with no special requirements, excluding Mythics). I realize there are many gaps, and in fact there will be a few more options this update.

A bit of OCD on my part led to my noticing there weren't an equal amount of obtainables in terms of uniques and rares, and I am presently working on that. In fact, this update, the uniques will be rounded out with a few new bows, leading to all classes having 72 Unique obtainables. I will start work on the rares soon. You may be pleased to hear that I have attempted to fill these gaps in as I notice them, but...



The item tracker sheet that we use is ridiculously messy. Many gaps have been missed simply because the format isn't that great. Either way, I will let you in on a few sneak peaks on the bows. Their names will be cut out, for sake of keeping some surprise for tomorrow(or whatever day of this month the update comes out. I'm assuming tomorrow though).

Spoiler: New Bows

While there are certainly still gaps to fill and many, MANY more items to be made, I am trying my best to fill out the list and create items you might be interested in using. Though, this does include more sections than simply the endgame, as build-making truly starts around the Lv 40 range, and...well, we all probably are aware of how barren the 40-70 section is.

A work, much more than in progress, to be sure, but this will allow me to see just what it is that I may have missed. I'll say it again.



This will be helpful. Thank you.

 

Once the item guide is updated, I'll update the thread with more. Nice to see Fire/Earth and Earth/Water archer getting an option, as well as an option for Fire/Air archer on the other side of the spectrum.

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I realize this thread makes this issue seem worse than it really is because the item guide is missing items like Hell's Scream...

 

There's also Ohonte Kerhite, which is a good healing wand with the best mana regen of any wand besides Bonder

 

Let me fill you in on that. Note that all of these are uniques.

Spoiler: New Wands

Squidword's Clarinet

3-5 Water Damage
2-8 Air Damage
Very Fast Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 17

8% Spell Damage
3 Intelligence
3 Agility
5% Speed
-10% Fire Damage
7% Water Defense
--
Wiggling Villager

5-50 Damage
Normal Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 31

11% XP bonus
19% Loot bonus
--
Nordstrom

28-54 Damage
20-38 Earth Damage
Slow Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 49
15 Strength Req

9% Damage Bonus
4 Agility
8% Thorns
7% Speed
12% Air Damage
-8% Water Defense
--
Alaxica

27-56 Air Damage
Fast Attack Speed
3 Slots(getting buffed)

Lv 55
40 Agility Req

15% Spell Damage
15% XP Bonus
10% Reflection
6 Agility
10% Speed
5% SP Regen
-20% Fire/Water/Earth/Thunder damage
--
Hollow Branch

35-60 Damage
50-70 Air Damage
Normal Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 75

1 Mana Steal
110 Poison
-250 Health
70 Spell Damage
12% Water/Earth Damage
-12% Air Damage
--
Hickory Stick

40-95 Damage
20-45 Fire Damage
Fast Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 77
35 Defense Req

6% Spell Damage
10% Damage Bonus
5 Defense
80 Health Regen
10% Fire/Air Defense
-8% Water Defense
--
Shining Stave

30-60 Damage
40-85 Thunder Damage
Fast Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 83
50 Dexterity Req

1 Mana Regen
16% Spell Damage
-12% Damage Bonus
14% Reflection
3 Intelligence
--
Layton

125-140 Damage
Normal Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 85
50 Intelligence Req

10% XP Bonus
15 Intelligence(getting buffed)
100 Spell Damage
--
Leaning Log

100-170 Damage
180-310 Earth Damage
Very Slow Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 92
70 Strength Req

-5% Spell Damage
5 Strength
5 Agility
20% Thorns
-5% Speed
310 Poison
20% Air Damage
-20% Thunder Damage
--
Noise Stream

20-160 Air Damage
Very Fast Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 94
60 Agility Req

-1 Mana Regen
145 Life Steal(getting buffed)
1 Mana Steal
10% Fire/Water/Earth/Thunder Damage
-20% Fire Defense
-10% Water/Earth/Thunder Defense
--
Drumstick

60-100 Damage
Super Fast Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 98
90 Dexterity Req

10 Dexterity
15 Damage Bonus
20% Air Damage
--
Sequoia

250-300 Earth Damage
Slow Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 100
70 Strength Req

-10% Spell Damage
15% Damage Bonus
8 Strength
10% Thorns
-10% Speed
600 Health
-10% Fire/Air Defense
10% Water Defense
30% Earth Defense

Spoiler: New Spears

Fluffy Spear

43-66 Damage
Slow Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 33
10 Defense Req

-15% Damage Bonus
6 Defense
125 Health(getting buffed)
8% Fire/Air Defense
--
Chest Breaker

40-92 Damage
Normal Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 48
30 Strength Req

7% Spell Damage
18% Damage Bonus
5 Strength
-4 Defense
8% Exploding
-210 Health(getting nerfed)
-15% Air Defense(getting nerfed)
--
Spear of Vix

10-25 Damage
20-50 Air Damage
Very Fast Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 57
25 Agility Req
5 Dexterity Req

8% Spell Damage
8% XP Bonus
8% Thorns
8% Speed
-8% Fire Damage
8% Air Damage
-8% Fire Defense
8% Air Defense
--
Magma Rod

74-112 Fire Damage
Normal Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 59
40 Defense Req

4 Strength
25% Exploding
-15 Health
20% Fire Damage
-30% Water Damage
20% Fire Defense
-30% Water Defense
10% Earth Defense
--
Sphyken

75-145 Damage
Normal Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 63
50 Dexterity Req

2 Mana Steal
5 Intelligence
-250 Health
40 Spell Damage
15% Water Damage
-20% Air Damage
15% Thunder Defense
--
Shokku

40-75 Damage
1-100 Thunder Damage
Fast Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 71
40 Dexterity Req

10% XP Bonus
5 Dexterity
5% Thorns
10% Speed
5% Thunder Defense
--
War Pike

170-240 Damage
Slow Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 74

-10% Spell Damage
10% Damage Bonus
5 Strength/Defense
-10% Speed
500 Health
--
Shade of Night

30-110 Air Damage
Super Fast Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 78
50 Agility Req

15% Spell Damage
-15% Damage Bonus
15% Speed
13% Water/Thunder Damage
-26% Fire/Earth Defense
20% Air Defense
--
Emerald Chopper

80-120 Damage
40-80 Earth Damage
Slow Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 80
30 Strength Req

25% Loot Bonus
7% Stealing
10% Earth Damage
-10% Earth Defense
--
Drifting Spear

40-60 Damage
65-110 Water Damage
25-50 Air Damage
Normal Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 82
20 Intelligence Req
40 Agility Req

9% XP Bonus
3 Intelligence
4 Agility
11% Speed
-20% Fire Damage
15% Air Damage
15% Water Defense
18% Air Defense
--
Yamato Spear

125-190 Damage
Fast Attack Speed

Lv 87

15% Spell Damage/Damage Bonus(getting buffed)
16% XP Bonus
7 Dexterity
7% Speed(getting buffed)
--
Spear of Sin

210-230 Damage
Slow Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 89
50 Dexterity/Defense Req

130 Life Steal
3 Dexterity/Defense
-5 Intelligence
13% Exploding
210 Poison
-13% SP Regen
20% Fire/Thunder Damage
-50% Water Damage
-13% Air Damage
--
Hell's Scream

55-180 Damage
15-25 Fire Damage
10-30 Air Damage
Fast Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 92
40 Agility Req
60 Defense Req

1 Mana Steal
-8 Strength
20% Exploding
150 Spell Damage
-20% Earth Damage(getting buffed)
30% Fire/Air Defense
--
Sharpened Harpoon

150-250 Damage
175-225 Water Damage
75-325 Thunder Damage
Very Slow Attack Speed
3 Slots(getting buffed)

Lv 97
55 Dexterity Req
60 Intelligence Req

17% Spell Damage
13% Damage Bonus
11% Loot Bonus
9% Reflection
5 Dexterity
-19% Speed(getting buffed)
-400 Health(getting buffed)
-15% Thunder Defense
-8% Earth Defense(getting buffed)
--
Bylvis' Pitchfork

300-380 Damage
Slow Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 99

1 Mana Regen
15% Reflection
15% Thorns
17% Water/Air/Earth Damage
-20% Thunder Damage
-30% Fire Defense
-10% Thunder Defense

Spoiler: New Daggers

Shadow Blade

4-14 Damage
1-7 Air Damage
Very Fast Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 14

-8% Damage Bonus
10 Life Steal
4 Agility
8 Spell Damage
--
Blood-Soaked Claws

23-34 Damage
Normal Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 21

8% Damage Bonus
25 Life Steal
-3 Health Regen
--
Nucleoken

20-40 Damage
Fast Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 26
2 All skills Req

5% Spell Damage
8% XP bonus
10% All Elements Damage
--
Blade of Snow

17-28 Damage
12-19 Water Damage
Normal Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 29
10 Intelligence Req

1 Mana Regen
6% Spell Damage
-9% Speed
5% Air Damage
-7% Fire Defense
10% Air Defense
--
Ghostly Blades

12-16 Water/Air Damage
Super Fast Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 40
15 Intelligence/Agility Req

-10% Damage Bonus
2 Mana Steal
-5 Strength
5 Intelligence/Agility
10% Speed
5% SP Regen
40 Spell Damage
--
Bear Opener(objectively the most badass thing)

90-150 Damage
60-100 Earth Damage
Very Slow Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 47
35 Strength Req

-25% Health Regen
-12% Spell Damage
40 Life Steal
12% XP Bonus
4 Strength
8% Exploding
--
Karabiner

31-44 Damage
21-30 Fire Damage
Very Fast Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 55
5 Agility Req
25 Defense Req

20% Health Regen
8% Loot Bonus
4 Agility
3 Defense
6% Speed
10% Earth Damage
10% Earth Defense
--
Flash

35-100 Thunder Damage
Super Fast Attack Speed
1 Slot

Lv 75
50 Dexterity Req
20 Agility Req

1 Mana Steal
3 Dexterity
6 Agility
20% Speed
-400 Health
--
Rock Chisel

179-180 Damage
Fast Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 83

19% Loot Bonus
-8% Reflection
5 Dexterity
3% Stealing
17% Earth Damage
-5% Earth Defense
--
Bladeguard

80-120 Damage
40-60 Air/Fire Damage
Normal Attack Speed
4 Slots

Lv 86
40 Agility Req
50 Defense Req

-10% Spell Damage
5% Reflection
4 Agility
7 Defense
8% Thorns
7% Speed
50 Health Regen
20% Air Defense
--
Orient

180-220 Damage
Normal Attack Speed

Lv 88

10% Spell Damage
10% Damage Bonus
15% XP Bonus
7% Speed
1 Attack Speed Tier
--
Belcon

70-120 Damage
80-135 Water Damage
40-70 Earth Damage
Normal Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 92
20 Strength Req
60 Intelligence Req

2 Mana Regen
6% Spell Damage(getting nerfed)
6% Damage Bonus(getting nerfed)
3 Strength(getting nerfed)
5 Intelligence(getting nerfed)
25% SP Regen
-45% Thunder Damage(getting nerfed)
15% Earth Damage
10% Water/Earth Defense
-30% Air Defense(getting nerfed)

To explain, this weapon really had very few downsides for 2 mana regen and very very good effects on a unique. A couple percent points higher, this could easily have been a legendary. Most nerfs were rather minor, though. It was either a general effectiveness nerf, or -1 powder slot.
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Lightning Edge

30-130 Damage
1-170 Thunder Damage
Very Fast Attack Speed
2 Slots

70 Dexterity Req

-1 Mana Regen
100 Life Steal
1 Mana Steal
7 Dexterity
11% Thorns
6% Speed
-5% SP Regen
10% Thunder Damage
-50% Earth Damage
20% Thunder Defense
-30% Earth Defense
--
Yverlian Blade

22-49 Damage
23-50 Fire Damage
32-41 Water Damage
18-54 Air Damage
14-59 Thunder Damage
27-45 Earth Damage
Fast Attack Speed
3 Slots

Lv 97
20 All skills Req

25% Reflection
5% SP Regen
70 Health Regen
16% All Elements Defense
--
Backburner

60-100 Damage
140-200 Fire Damage
Normal Attack Speed
2 Slots

Lv 99
60 Defense Req

-12% Spell Damage
12% Damage Bonus
140 Life Steal
7 Dexterity
5 Defense
17% Exploding
13% Fire Damage
18% Thunder Damage
-20% Water Damage
-20% Water Defense
-8% Earth Defense

Bows will be added soon after the update drops.

 

Holy jeez okay
I'll look through and make an update to the thread soon!

 

It also has abysmal base damage and, while its IDs are impressive, it's nothing that can't be outmatched by the endgame items.

Approximately 15 of each item was made. Not exactly that amount for each type, though; some had a few more weapons than others. But, now they are all equal at 72 droppables.

 

I'm going to assume that you meant 40 Defense

Fair enough

 

50 Defense, actually. Fixed.