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Why The Az Nerf Was Too Much, And How To Fix It.

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Mettymagic, Aug 29, 2016.

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How should the Az be buffed?

  1. Increased powder slots!

  2. Base attack speed fix!

  3. Base attack damage buff!

  4. None, the Az is fine how it is!

  5. Buff? The Az needs more nerfs if anything!

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  1. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    How about no?
    ...then again I don't use an AZ BUT IF THEY RUINED MY CHAKRAM I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME
     
  2. Fissure

    Fissure I'll be fine .

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  3. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Fissure I'll be fine .

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    Lol okay , i were so confused xD
     
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  5. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    ...Chakram was buffed? It inflicts more poison...
     
  6. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I went from doing 2500+ 79 damage per spin attack to 800+ 300 per spin attack so. Also the damage boost given by the +tier attack speed only somewhat negates the -25 base damage (363 damage per second previous, 370 damage per second now). I might revisite it some day but for now I'll be using Rewind.
    (Also didn't everything that inflicts poison have the poison buffed?)
     
  7. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    So, your build was based around the flaws in the attack speed tier ID?
     
  8. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Not intentionally. It was actually a walk speed build, with some (albiet very little) damage boosts to both melee and spell damage, by way of a thunderous step.
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    Also I should probably point out that Bull, a rare level 63 dagger, does more damage per second than Chakram, has more spell damage, and gives a health and melee bonus
     
  9. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    im a lv 90 and i instagibbed a lv 1 zombie with a depressing bow its so op nerf pls
     
  10. llllllllllllll

    llllllllllllll Famous Adventurer

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    Okay I agree but you have to wait for thee next update trololol

    also just don't use az cos its crap now then trololol
     
  11. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    Bull also is Very Fast rather than Chakram's Super Fast and requires no skill boosts, along with having no boosts to element damage, while Chakram's dexterity requirement, element damage ID, and Agility boost bump its damage up.
     
  12. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    Forcing a requirement doesn't make a weapon better, it makes it worse. For example, instead of relying on dexterity the player could use strength to have a more reliable source of damage and a melee build if they wanted to, or higher agility for survivability and air damage.
     
  13. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    And yet, the elemental damage boost from Dexterity increases Chakram's damage significantly from the base.

    Taking this to a logical extreme, Alkatraz - Strength requirement = a really friggin awful weapon. Az would be probably a little bit underwhelming without its dex requirement.
     
  14. Toasted Asian

    Toasted Asian Toasty VIP+

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    Fk az, tier attack speed and my crossroad (and possibly wallbreaker in the future) ftw, with some contrails and raging winds and some spell damage items to buff the items
     
  15. DanDYolo

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    Az is not nerfed for me at all, I still do the same dmg I did before
     
  16. DarthUtopia

    DarthUtopia Well-Known Adventurer

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    Soo does the nerf affect all Az, or just Az obtained after the nerf? I was kinda building a Dexterity Archer and now I'll have to rethink everything unless I can obtain Az pre-nerf, since I think some of the other bows are just better now.
     
  17. whatheckno

    whatheckno cool guy HERO

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    Can someone show me pictures of the old az and the new az? I'm not an archer and I'm not a mythic collector so I have no idea what the stats were
     
  18. Shanaaro

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    All.
     
  19. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    Or people can just choose their build and decide to go strength.
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    I can tell you. Ids may be inaccurate, just off the top of my head.

    Pre-Patch Az
    Lv. 74
    80 dex req.
    Super fast
    40-120 neutral
    1-500 thunder
    10% thunder dmg
    3 dex
    8% xp bonus
    10% water dmg
    10% fire dmg
    2 powder slots

    Post-patch
    Same req.
    Same speed
    40-80 neutral
    1-350 thunder
    Same IDs
    1 powder slot
     
  20. whatheckno

    whatheckno cool guy HERO

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    Oh the new az is shit
     
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