Massive Quitting Giveaway: 36+ Stacks Of Le, Mythics, Max Xp Set, And Many Other Valuable Items

nilire4810 · Jul 31, 2016

24 hours & 20 minutes left till giveaway time.

Kriotus · Jul 31, 2016

AndriX3S said: ↑

You are shit!
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I agree.
I also hate exclamation points.

Salted · Jul 31, 2016

Kriotus said: ↑

When did I call all staff lazy corrupt assholes? That's just straight up lying. I laid down why I am quitting, and that is my opinion. Quote me and I can prove you wrong ten times over.

Instead of becoming defensive when someone challenges you, prove them wrong. I wan't you to prove me wrong so that you aren't just blindly swinging at me telling me I am bad for calling out staff/gm/admins who have mismanaged the game.

Me leaving and giving away my Le doesn't give me the right to go off on everyone. I can do that whenever I want. I just have been holding back my opinions because of how horrible the community is. Horrible in the sense that me sharing my opinion leads to people like YOU telling me I am what is wrong for trying to make Wynncraft a better place.

I will be as hostile as I want, but know that I am being constructive and if you want I'll post what I sent to salted about changing the game.

Damnit double post mechanic, why do you have to exist

Here is what I sent to salted:

So I saw you respond, and I responded, but I thought it wouldn't be fair for me to "fire back" without giving you some of the ideas I had on how to fix the problems that are causing more problems

First off, player interaction aside from WC1 Detlas is minuscule, it was bad before gavel but now with x2 the area to be in, you just don't run into other people often. I have two ideas for improving this and they should both be implemented.

1. Increase server size
You probably have already thought about this, but there are just too few people in each server. I believe you should reduce the amount of servers and increase the cap, maybe to something around 240. This could get out of hand easily in places like WC1 Detlas, but my solution to that is implementing a trade server and a special trade shoutbox on the forums for people to actively trade in.

2. Change the "flow" of player interaction.
Right now, I see a large division in how people play/experience the game. There are the "top" players like me, and many others who know how to get to lvl 100 in 8 hours during txp, and then there are the newer players who don't know what the forums are, or how to play the game to the extent I do. This is caused by a lack of interaction between players like me and newer players, as well as a lack of anything past a super basic mechanics tutorial. I only got to where I am because on previous servers, I frequented the forums and knew how important for learning/progressing they are. Newer players usually never visit the forums or interact with experienced players. To fix this, I believe you need to more directly direct players to areas/places where they can meet higher level players/learn about the games, such as detlas, the forums, or maybe something new.

Second, the economy is fucked as I said. Everyone has loads of le, mythics are basically legendaries with how many they are, and the way people receive this loot/le is also broken. This might cause backlash but in the long term it needs to be done.

Decrease le rewards and all the le in the game

Too many people have too much le for the economy to be balanced. I made 47ish stacks of le in under a month, without scamming lower level players who don't know what their items are worth because they don't know abou the trade market. Inflation is bad, and its taking place right now. To solve this you just need to decrease the amount of le people have and receive, as well as make mythics more "mythical". People can find mythics very easily and if you don't even have to find them yourselves. In one day I was able to buy a fully max xp set and then sell it to make ~8 stacks of profit, with which I could by any item aside from ninjas strati. What I am trying to say is decrease the actual le people have, while you may think it will cause problems, it won't, items will be worth the same amount its just that le is more spare so there is a smaller ratio of le:item.

As for mythics, they are kinda the endgame incentive to why people trade/spend time on wynn, but they aren't really endgame. Everyone can find one super easily or buy one. My suggestion is to remove them from loot chests, or just remove loot chests as a whole. A popular WoW mechanic is raiding, and while wynncraft shouldn't copy it, I believe it is a good example of how the best gear should be obtained. You shouldn't bee given it for buying loot gear and opening chests, you should have to go through a difficult challenge, that requires planning and teamwork for a chance to receive it, and that is where I believe the new dungeons should come into place. Each elemental dungeon has a chance of dropping its elemental mythics (so the air dungeon has a chance of droping strati, archangel, weathered etc.). Obviously they will have to be more challenging than the current dungeons/bosses as I can solo the "hardest" boss qira. This should add an incentive to play at the endgame, a proper loot system, and more player interaction/enjoyment.

^^^^^
There is more than just that, and I probably left out a lot of what I wanted to say (please inquire if something doesn't make sense or if something is missing), but those 2 big ones are my main concern. I also believe PvP needs a revamp, as well as swarms and the progression of quests.

I'm going to end this part here because I want to do something else, but I'll write more eventually and I would be happy to debate needed changes/what I see from a non staff point of view.

Well the double post mechanic has gotten me. after I put in my first comment there is a -------- dividng the two, just know I copy and pasted the second half straight from a conversation I made between me and Salted
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I'm not trying to start a flame war here. From your other posts, you sound really pissed at us. Do you think we just like having 60 players per servers? It's what we can handle before it starts to lag out. Changing the flow of player interaction sound super easy to say, I'd love to hear your ideas (saying "or maybe something new" doesn't help much). All we need to do is make sure that the players know the forums/wiki exist. If we force it to them, they will simply be put off by how annoying we get. Not everyone wants to min-max the game. As for the rest, check it out after the update.

I don't get why you say the staff and game is corrupt. What the hell are we even doing to be corrupted? We ain't getting paid by some evil corporation to do anything. We work on the game for you guys.

Now, I'm sure it won't change anything because I feel like you're really angry at us for some reason, but when you say "if staff/gms refuse to accept help/criticism from players" it feels weird, as the next update is highly based on a lot of criticisms we got from the community.

Now, can we go over you for a little bit mister "I'm getting attacked for stating my opinion!"?

"Maybe if Wynncraft was properly cared for people would be kinder and not want to quit.

How do you let massive gamebreaking bugs stay in a game for 7+ months?
How do you let a community become so degraded and segragaded that people just quit?
How can you complain about people being "upset" or "rude" yet not even attempt to fix what is broken until things are so bad that people no longer want to play?

Edit: One other thing, how am I being a part of the problem? Is it bad that I'm calling you out? Is it bad that people are noticing flaws/disconnection and want that to be changed?"

Like comon now, am I really this evil bitch who make up a game, and then decide to burn it down as I force thousands of people to suffer through my tortures all day while laughing and gently stroking my nipples? You didn't even call me out, you said the staff were lazy, corrupted and assholes. I sure feels like it's more you who suddenly got real agressive when I called you out. I was more disappointed that a giveaway thread, which are usually good things people do because they are nice, was so full of negativities and insults, right on the first post. I don't even get your statement about me not even attempting to fix the issues you're on about, how in hell would you even know if I did or not? Or maybe... you are making shit up and getting angry over it? Nah that couldn't be. You are part of the problem because of shit like this:

"When did I call all staff lazy corrupt assholes? That's just straight up lying. I laid down why I am quitting, and that is my opinion. Quote me and I can prove you wrong ten times over."
"Huhuehuehue I didn't directly say (but heavily implied, which get me out of any accusations!) that ALL staff were lazy corrupt assholes, got ya you liar". That's a shitty behavior. What is even the point to bait people like that? You think everybody is just dumb and won't see what you're trying to do? Quoting people and highlighting the word "every" in their post to try to paint them as a liar. Damn, you sure got them!

"I can do that whenever I want. I just have been holding back my opinions because of how horrible the community is. Horrible in the sense that me sharing my opinion leads to people like YOU telling me I am what is wrong for trying to make Wynncraft a better place.

I will be as hostile as I want, but know that I am being constructive and if you want I'll post what I sent to salted about changing the game."

Are you trolling right now? This is insane... "The community and people like YOU, YES YOU IN ALL CAPS AND ACCUSATORY WAY, are bad because they are against me in my brave quest to make Wynncraft better by saying I'm bored, the economy is fucked and that the community sucks!"
Sure, you then posted a bit more information at page 8, but that was after I said you were part of the problem. How is that being constructive?

Also, even if you are being constructive (which you weren't in your first post), being hostile is insanely shitty. People are being hostile right now because you started your post being hostile. And then you complain that people are being jerks to you? Give me a break, I'd prefer having a hundreds of people who like-farm than "constructive hostile people". Can you imagine how insane the forum would become? If you want change, do it the proper way (even though changes are coming soon, and has been announced, which makes your whole behavior even more puzzling).

We ain't against suggestions and hard feedback, that's how we improve. We have a problem when people are being dicks about it.

Now hey, insulting people is against the rules. I'm gonna lock the thread as it's getting out of control. Just know I'm not censoring you, if you want to reply to this (I'm sure you do), you can make a thread in the general suggestion with all of your ideas on how to improve the game, since that's such an important thing to you. And politely, please.

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