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World Strategy Trainers

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by cars3n, Feb 22, 2016.

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  1. cars3n

    cars3n Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    So I started a ninja class recently, (don't worry this isn't an assassin buff thread) and when I'm fighting monsters it's all fine an dandy, no trouble. But when i go to duel someone, it's hard to get used to the spells the opponent uses with my new class.

    And I want to get better at the strategy of my classes, but realistically no one wants to duel me over and over.
    So I thought that maybe if there were trainers (like the ones in ToL) that used spells like the classes, I could get better at PvP! (The nether is good too, but there's not many people there usually)

    So I was thinking that in some towns there should be a place you can go, where there are zombie's that have full iron on and an iron golem head, and they hold either a bow, a spear, a dagger, or a wand. (Each type of class would be in a separate room, and the trainers give 0-1 xp). The Mage Training Golem could use Heal, Teleport, Meteor and Ice Snake, The Warrior Training Golem could use Bash, Charge, etc. There would only be one mob in a room at a time, and if you die you will not lose soul points.

    The places that would have these trainers would be:
    (I try to put them in places easy to get to, but not in all major towns, and please note that the heath stats are based on what players' health at that level would be)
    Wynn:
    -Elkurn (lvl 10 trainers, 70 health)
    -Selchar (lvl 25 trainers, 250 health)
    -Lusuco (lvl 40 trainers, 1000 health)
    -Jungle Village (lvl 50 trainers, 2000 health)
    -Temple Of Legends (lvl 70 trainers, 5000 health)
    Gavel:
    -Bucie (lvl 45 trainers, 1500 health)
    -Geliboard (lvl 60 trainers, 3000 health)
    -Cinfras Airdocks (lvl 75 trainers, 6000 health)
    -Eltom (lvl 85 trainers, 8000 health)
    -Rodoroc (lvl 90 trainers, 8500 health)
    -Ahmsord (lvl 100 trainers, 10,000 health)

    Please leave suggestions! The health stats aren't exact, so if you're one of these levels tell me your health!

    EDIT: Changed Detlas to Elkurn
     
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  2. TrashcanMan

    TrashcanMan Hello I am here

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    Would the trainer actually fight you or would it just stand there and cast spells? If you wanted it to fight you as training for real duels, it's going to need some ridiculously complicated AI that would probably take months to code.
     
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    The One-eyed Guy that guy VIP+

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    The problem is that it's not really the spells you need to get used to but the ways in which people use them. The Trainers are unlikely to use Ice Snake as a forcefield or movement manipulator or use Uppercut as a trap.
     
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    cars3n Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    I was thinking they would fight, but they'd have the rush tactic i guess it's called and use spells

    Very true
     
  5. BlahBlah161616

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    Why on earth a trainer at Bucie and not Llevigar? Ok, you need to know the capitals

    Llevigar
    Olux
    Gelibord
    Cinfras
    Thesead
    Rodoroc
    Ahmsord

    Eltom and Bucie aren't on that list, some of these make no sense at all. Heck, even Wynn, why Lusuco, Jungle Village and Temple of Legends? It should be in every capital with mobs that match the levels of the cities. In addition, this things should not act as grinding spots, but act as training mobs, so a new AI would be needed, where these mobs damage you, and attack you, but, don't take away soul points when they kill you, and don't give XP when killed.
     
  6. IggyBoii

    IggyBoii I Have No Idea What Im Doing VIP

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    there basically villagers.
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    Bucie needs something new, and a better reason to visit it, deal with it.
     
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    cars3n Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Ok, yes i know the capitals, but i didn't want them that you can just scroll TP to. They're not far from capitals anways.
    As for the second part, i can't see what you're trying to get across. These were never grinding spots, they were training mobs all along. And the "Where these mobs damage you, and attack you", I don't understand. And the AI, i think they wouldn't need a new one, just a tweaked one.
     
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    No, the AI would have to be completely redone, mobs can't do multiple spells.
     
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    they can, bob summons arrows coming from the sky, and uses leap
    and qira uses the spider cobweb trap, and a multi hit attack.
     
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    Actually, both wrong, I'd you fought with an archer, it's their arrow Sheild, and if not, then it's his swords. And Qira can use the web attack, but the mobs around Qira use the other attacks. The AI only allows for 1 special per mob.
     
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    Bebinson Well-Known Adventurer

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    Maybe not in Detlas but in Elkurn? I mean Elkurn is kind of useless and you wrote:
     
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    Slight problem. The mob AI can only hold a single spell...
     
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    Eltom is just as big as Thesead if not bigger.
     
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    Thesead is bigger, Thesead is a three floor city, that isn't confined to between mountains, just because Eltom is more spread out doesn't make it have a larger area.
     
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    Eltom has an airship tower. Does Thesead? Never seen Thesead's.
     
  16. cars3n

    cars3n Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Done. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
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    Kandon-Beda has an airship tower, doesn't make it bigger. Your arguement is invalid, Thesead is labeled on the map as the capital of the canyon, if you have an issue with this, stop arguing with me and bring it to the content team.
     
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    I didn't know the map labelled the capitals differently. Sorry.
    By the way, Kandon-beda was originally the capital of the Sky Islands but was deemed 'not cool enough' so my point still could've been a valid argument.
     
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    Qira uses both web attack, AND the multihit, not the spiders doing multi hit, if it did, then fighting qira would be harder, and Bob, you always see him using leap so thats true, and if it was arrowshield, i doubt it was the swords, because theres atleast 5-6 swords there, if that was true there would be tons of arrows everywhere, i dont think they would do it so they can only use it at same time. plus the arrows fall from the sky, it doesnt spawn beside them as a shield.
     
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