[items] Swap Fire And Earth Element Attributes In Gavel(52+ Supporters)

When someone says earth, what do you think of? It really is pretty harmless, though it is solid, and all life grows in it. (yea i know there are plants that don't grow in dirt)

When someone says fire, what do you think of? Destruction, damage, it is something most living creatures are afraid of by instinct.

So, why is earth the damage element, and fire the health element? It just doesen's make any sense. So my suggestion is to swap their attributes.

Now, I understand that the devs may not be able too because of some other type of attribute, and in that case, I'm fine with it.

 

At least I know I'm not the only one who has that opinon

+1

 

Yay, finally a reply

 

Fire also can be rebirth, a forest burns down and then it 'heals' but it also is destruction.
Earth may be represented as strong and powerful, btw earth is not completely harmless. The earth isn't harmless e.g earthquakes erosions landslides. Stuff like that is powerful

You could argue both ways

 

essentially it makes more sense that fire=dmg and earth=defense, as in most RPGs.

however, if they want to do a damage type with high damage, low attack rate, all melee, earth makes a lot more sense in that respect.

 

I agree with this. +1

This makes way more sense. Why do you think they do this in most games? It just confuses me on why Earth would be Attack and not defense. Earth is more defensive and tank based anyways. Fire is more quick, agile, and strikes fast. Switching their roles would make a lot more sense. A perfect example would be Avatar: The last airbender. In that show you see the Earth element being used to protect and defend, while the fire element is more quick, and offense based. Show-references aside, here is another way you could look at it. If you had fire as your defense, and earth as your offense, it would be chaos. The fire defense would have no effect against the earth offense. The earth element would just snuff the fire out. Fire is not solid, and can be put out easily. Why make this a defense?

 

How bout we just go to Gavel when it comes out, learn more about, and then make changes?

 

Where does the new forest grow? In the fire?

When earth harms you it is caused by something else moving it. Earthquakes are caused by the mantle the tectonic plates are floating on. And also, this process is nessecary for evolution.

In geomorphology and geology, erosion is the action of exogenic processes (such aswater flow or wind) which remove soil and rock from one location on the Earth's crust, then transport it to another location where it is deposited. (First sentence copypasted from the wikipedia page for erosions) As you can see, it is caused by something else.

And I won't even bother writing doen all the causes of landslides.

 

ikr when i first read the teaser i was like:

+1

 

+1 +1 +1 +1 fire should be a glass cannon, I mean look at what fire does! it blows up stuff, burns it down damage! no defense at all. Earth is like a mountain....

 

i actually think the original descriptions make a ton of sense, Earth is slow but hits hard, and fire burns when you touch it (defense) :p

 

you are just saying this, because that is how other games do it and wynn doesn't have make it how other do.

 

Actually.
Even GMs made this suggestion to Salted himself when he told them about it, but Salted really wanted to keep it this way.
Also, a fix like this would require a LOT of work to be redone.

 

I completely agree. Earth does make sense as a slow, hard-hitting class, but fire and health make no sense whatsoever. Swapping would make it a little more intuitive.

Can they not just switch the names around with Ctrl-F or something? Is that not how it works?

 

Yes they could switch it. But explain how fire is supposed to be a slow, hard hitting attack type with little spell damage and mainly melee.

They'd have to rework every earth and fire weapon to better fit this type.
Also, a fire type damage is far too similar to thunder type, in that fire attacks tend to be fast and hard, using elemental damage.

 

Eh, i thought the same at first yet... defense is now more health oriented. What makes more sense: fire or a slab of rock representing one's vitality?

 

magic

 

The reason for this is that Fire is defense, which is the elemnt asigned to mobs that are health-heavy. Water beats Fire. Water is the 'shit' element, so of Fire is defense, Water, the shit element, can easily counter it.

 

D: but water is cool in most games

 

really? the 'shit' element?