Delete Troubled Tribesmen

The quest is bad. It's downright racist. It's going to be replaced at some point. But why wait until then to disavow it? It does not substantially add to Content in its level range. Nobody cares about Dernel Jungle, and nobody would miss one bad quest. Just remove it now. The whole set of quests in Dernel will probably be replaced in Wynn Reborn anyway.

 

KILL

 

arguably less problematic than Craftmas Chaos, which was removed (this is nostalgia talking)

 

What was the problem with CC? I remember being vaguely upset that it was removed. Was it the time travel?

 

because it was a bad quest

 

I agree that Troubled Tribesman needs to be removed and/or replaced, but mostly because I just think Dernel Jungle is an extremely underutilized and frankly pointless area and the boring quests don't help. It's essentially just The Jungle 2™ with very little to distinguish it from the main Jungle and the best quest there is WynnExcavation, which all things considered is a certified hood classic but it's also old as dirt and severely outdated in these post-Rekindled and post-Fruma times.

Dernel Jungle is kinda like the Ice Canyon: it's in its own weird special area separate from its preceding area and there's not much reason to go there, but even then at least the Ice Canyon has the Tower of Ascension and a somewhat modern quest, and of course actually looks distinct from Nesaak Forest.
You know what, I'm gonna go visit the Ice Canyon, it's got this cool nostalgic vibe tbh.
...What was I talking about again?

 

Honestly, if the rebuild got rid of Dernel Jungle entirely I wouldn't be mad. It's unlikely, but... what's the harm? What's lost? All the content in the area would need to be rewritten from scratch to make it good, why is it needed? Surely you could just have a nondescript Southern Jungle with some old Olmic temples and a broader presence elsewhere.

...On that note, it's very hard to navigate Dernel... even teleporting is hard.

 

TBH that's my favorite thing about Dernel. It does genuinely have an unexplored jungle feel to it. There aren't a lot of roads, there isn't a lot of reason to be there. It's just kinda the wild area that no one really knows.

 

Yes. I hate Dernel, and one less reason to go in would be great

 

I think it’s an interesting place and generally I really like when there are areas of wilderness that aren’t particularly content dense or lore important, personally it makes the world feel more real and more interesting to explore. However I honestly wouldn’t mind if dernel jungle was just removed and replaced with something more interesting, maybe more Mistwoods. I find the incredibly small size of that area to me kind of immersion breaking personally

 

Oh, yeah. They should turn Dernel into more Fruma.

 

Giant Fruma

 

how is it racist though, the names do seem a bit weird but they literally live deep in the jungle and are in their own isolated civilization. plus its easy and free exp

 

It's the tropes. Have you ever thought about where the ideas of savage jungle tribesmen with holy sites full of heads on pikes, worshiping Strange Gods and subject to Voodoo Curses, may have come from? As a reminder, fiction is created by reality and draws on the mind of its authors. Wynncraft is not a window into another world which is opened a little wider each update, it is made by people.

 

what culp said + literally all of krattson.
"Hey! Aren't these people fascinating? They sure smell bad, though!"

 

"Let us journey into the Savage Wild Lands to learn the Strange Customs of the Other People!"

 

Actually, you know what, I feel like Ice Canyon is redeemable. It's strange as-is for being just More Nesaak With Less Trees, but I feel like if it was framed as "super giga cold, even colder than Nesaak", it might be cool...?

 

Ice Canyon: Colder than Almuj on a Summer Day
this is an attempt at humor

 

oh that is kinda racist lmao, havent done troubled tribesmen in ages though so didnt know

 

Troubled Tribesmen can definitely get deleted but I think Dernel Jungle should stay. Maybe remove or significantly rebuild the mountain range separating it from Troms Jungle (with its own style as was done with the Bremminglar mountains)?