Game Mechanics Text-Component-Based Client-Sided Localization

This is an alternative way at tackling the localization problem, allowing the problem to be solved much easier.

Currently, client-side mods that operate on text such as Voices of Wynn and WynnLang must match on text directly. This has problems though:
1. Much of the content is one-time only, which causes the translations of these contents to be practically unverifiable.
2. Every patch may contain changes to text, which, even if insignificant, will cause the client translations to fail.
These problems cause any attempt at making a localization mod extremely infeasible, and so people have to rely on largely inaccurate machine translations to play the mackerel.

To solve this problem, instead of directly sending text to clients, we can make full use of Minecraft's text component system and send translatable text components, using the resource pack or fallback for text. With this method, the client can use the resource pack to change text to whatever they want.

Since translation fallback was added in 1.19.4 and WynnCraft is now using 1.20.5, it is now completely possible to not reveal secret information until someone encounters it and it is sent to the client. For non-secret information though, it is probably better to either completely use the resource pack instead, or release an official English-only translation resource pack, for ease of translation and avoiding the verifiability problem.

Some examples and proposals, with the corresponding original text components extracted from the mackerel:

Spoiler: Quest Dialogue Example: Cook Assistant Stage 1

Spoiler: Original text components (formatting removed)

Code:

{
  "text": "[1/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "text": "The Cook: "
    },
    {
      "text": "I can't believe what is happening to me."
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[2/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "text": "The Cook: "
    },
    {
      "text": "The King ordered me to bake cakes for all those new recruits!"
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[3/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "text": "The Cook: "
    },
    {
      "text": "Unfortunately, a Grook took my last cake, and I ran out of ingredients!"
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[4/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "text": "The Cook: "
    },
    {
      "text": "Now can you help..."
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[5/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "text": "The Cook: "
    },
    {
      "text": "That's the Grook! Go chase it down and get my cake back!"
    }
  ]
}

Spoiler: Proposed text components (formatting removed)

Code:

{
  "text": "[1/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "translate": "npc.the_cook",
      "fallback": "The Cook"
    },
    {
      "text": ": "
    },
    {
      "translate": "quest.cook_assistant.1.1",
      "fallback": "I can't believe what is happening to me."
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[2/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "translate": "npc.the_cook",
      "fallback": "The Cook"
    },
    {
      "text": ": "
    },
    {
      "translate": "quest.cook_assistant.1.2",
      "fallback": "The King ordered me to bake cakes for all those new recruits!"
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[3/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "translate": "npc.the_cook",
      "fallback": "The Cook"
    },
    {
      "text": ": "
    },
    {
      "translate": "quest.cook_assistant.1.3",
      "fallback": "Unfortunately, a Grook took my last cake, and I ran out of ingredients!"
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[4/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "translate": "npc.the_cook",
      "fallback": "The Cook"
    },
    {
      "text": ": "
    },
    {
      "translate": "quest.cook_assistant.1.4",
      "fallback": "Now can you help..."
    }
  ]
}

{
  "text": "[5/5] ",
  "extra": [
    {
      "translate": "npc.the_cook",
      "fallback": "The Cook"
    },
    {
      "text": ": "
    },
    {
      "translate": "quest.cook_assistant.1.5",
      "fallback": "That's the Grook! Go chase it down and get my cake back!"
    }
  ]
}

Spoiler: Item Name & Lore Example: Morrowind

Spoiler: Original text components (formatting removed)

Code:

{
  "custom_name": {
    "text": "Morrowind"
  },
  "lore": [
    ...,
    {
      "text": "One of many lost artifacts"
    },
    {
      "text": "from the legendary Wind"
    },
    {
      "text": "Fortress, the engraving"
    },
    {
      "text": "appears to be a cryptic clue"
    },
    {
      "text": "to where the Fortress fell."
    },
    {
      "text": "\"We shall be found among the"
    },
    {
      "text": "dark winds of the morrow.\""
    }
  ]
}

Spoiler: Proposed text components (formatting removed)

Code:

{
  "custom_name": {
    "translate": "item.wand.morrowind",
    "fallback": "Morrowind"
  },
  "lore": [
    ...,
    {
      "translate": "item.wand.morrowind.lore.1",
      "fallback": "One of many lost artifacts"
    },
    {
      "translate": "item.wand.morrowind.lore.2",
      "fallback": "from the legendary Wind"
    },
    {
      "translate": "item.wand.morrowind.lore.3",
      "fallback": "Fortress, the engraving"
    },
    {
      "translate": "item.wand.morrowind.lore.4",
      "fallback": "appears to be a cryptic clue"
    },
    {
      "translate": "item.wand.morrowind.lore.5",
      "fallback": "to where the Fortress fell."
    },
    {
      "translate": "item.wand.morrowind.lore.6",
      "fallback": "\"We shall be found among the"
    },
    {
      "translate": "item.wand.morrowind.lore.7",
      "fallback": "dark winds of the morrow.\""
    }
  ]
}

Note that item lore may be slightly problematic as vanilla Minecraft does not and most likely will not handle newlines properly in item lore (see MC-269003), and thus translations may need to fit in the same number of lines used in English.

Spoiler: Entity Example: Pink Sheep of Greatness

Spoiler: Original text components (formatting removed)

Code:

{
  "text": "Pink Sheep of Greatness"
}

Spoiler: Proposed text components (formatting removed)

Code:

{
  "translate": "entity.pink_sheep_of_greatness",
  "fallback": "Pink Sheep of Greatness"
}

Addendum 1:
With Fruma's new dialogue and text system, negative width spaces are heavily used to reset the text pointer back to the start of the string. In order to deal with this, the translation key system will require precomputing text width and add correct resetting spacing, in a separate translation key.

 

Interesting suggestion. I don't have the programming knowledge to know if it's feasible. Suppose you'll have to wait for CT to chime in (it's the Devs who'd know whether this is possible, and there's only 2 of them, neither active on Forums - they're probably overworked anyway).

 

Changed quest dialogue and item name/lore examples, and added a simple entity example

 

i need feedback

 

bump, this is important

 

I frankly have no idea how this works exactly because I have no experience in programming but it sounds like you're suggesting to add... auto-translated text to Wynncraft based on Minecraft's translations?
I have no idea if this would even remotely work but if it does work then it would be a good idea to add as long as there's a clear warning that there could be translation errors.

 

Nah what I'm saying is basically:
1. Add translation keys to everything so resource packs can be used to play WynnCraft in other languages
2. Add an official English resource pack so we can make resource packs that make WynnCraft be in other languages
See the official Minecraft wiki for more in-depth information

Also people already play with auto-translated text btw

 

Это очень интересная идея, и я бы хотел, чтобы что-то подобное было реализовано.

 

This idea is very cool idea, hope CT can watch this.

 

naur naur too much effort fruma needs to be released they need to patch game 50000x naurrr

 

i can't believe the forums is dead

 

DONT SAY THAT

 

i can't

 

I feel like a thread which is 80% 'Bump' probably counts as necroposting.

 

but its a good idea

also um

hi

 

it's important

 

I think it's been seen at this point.

 

bump of importance

 

Deusphage has liked my message. This means that your bumps are meaningless. CT knows. Bumping will accomplish nothing.

 

Let the man shout into the void, for it is a nobler cause than many of us may champion in our lifetimes, and those who have found such purpose are loath to abandon it until it is fulfilled.