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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Duklings, Nov 25, 2025.

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what do you think of it?

  1. i like it but i have something to add [insert comment]

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  2. I LOVE IT IT SHOULD BE IN THE GAME JUST LIKE THIS

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  3. i hate it please dont play summoner

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  1. Duklings

    Duklings Travelled Adventurer

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    i personally really like the concept of summoner, and it is a good archetype until you get in endgame or when all the other subclasses get their final, overpowered, red note. Summoner doesnt have this. His last red note are the humming birds. these humming birds are only useful for the extra jump height and walk speed (yea i know they can also attack but nobody uses them like that, only on the combat dummy :D). Dont try to make shaman better at traversal, it is just the worst class for it and it will always be (frog dance exists but we dont care), only the players who have mastered shaman and the timing of totem and haul can fly with shaman (including me), but if you make one small mistake you go left and right like crazy and you will bonk into a wall, and fall to the ground,
    but im getting out of context. My plan was to change the hummingbirds to another kind of summon, that pops out of your totem like puppets or effigies. It could have something to do with walk speed if u like, but i suggest elementals: these 5 elementals will pop up from your totem in the order (from highest to lowest) of what elemental DEFENCES you have. these elementals are all practically the same, but for their own element. they will shoot 2 homing beams, one at you and one at the focused enemy. where they hit you, they give you a damage buff of that element of ~20%, but if they hit a enemy they will deal ~50% elemental (not all, just his own element) damage per ~0.5 seconds. these elementals will stay about ¿15 seconds? until they disappear and have a cooldown of ¿5 seconds? before they pop out of your totem again. The better humming birds note will just be better elementals, which changes the damage bonus: 20% -> 25% and the damage tick to 0.4 seconds or something. This was my super short idea (trust) and i hope u guys like it!
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    oh and btw it is like 00:00 for me rn so dont blame me for spelling mistakes, blame yourself (what how do u do that). bye imma sleep now
     
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  2. Deusphage

    Deusphage but a beast Modeler Builder

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    whose ?


    Except people do use it for more than just DPS testing, and if you're deliberately not using the ability for its intended purpose, then it's blatantly obvious why you'd think to post something like this; you don't see the purpose in an ability you aren't actually using. There isn't a super high barrier of entry for using them for more than just their passive effect, either.

    Just because a class doesn't have the same movement capabilities of another doesn't mean it shouldn't have access to movement period. This is a really weird thing to try to push.
     
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  3. Elytry

    Elytry Making Builds & Needs to Chill

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    let me tell you about the days before 2.0, the dark days
    there was no teleporting on aco
    no frog dancing on ritualist
    no hummingbirds on summoner
     
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  4. Deusphage

    Deusphage but a beast Modeler Builder

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    Yeah because before 2.0 there wasn't acolyte, ritualist, or summoner goofball
     
  5. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad The forums lurker.

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    what is a "summoner goofball?"
     
  6. Elytry

    Elytry Making Builds & Needs to Chill

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    yeah ik
    thats what i said (basically but you get the point)
    and so none of those abilties existed
    because abilities didnt exist
    and even when they were added, frog dance still wasnt too powerful (totem limitation), blood connection was tho (and hummingbirds didnt exist yet)
     
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  7. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad The forums lurker.

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    you know how i feel about blood connection!

    :babyangel:

    :salted::salted::salted::salted::salted:
     
  8. Elytry

    Elytry Making Builds & Needs to Chill

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    i do?
     
  9. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad The forums lurker.

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    what do you think it MEANS to be an acrosummoner
    it is necessary to crosstree
     
  10. Spaghetti Man

    Spaghetti Man The Spaghetti Man

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    Yeah it's me, I'm him.
     
  11. _bladegoddess_

    _bladegoddess_ Well-Known Adventurer

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    Playing puppet bomber is the way. Traditional summoner is not nearly as interesting, and the Olympic build I have been working on uses traditional shaman flying (totem + haul without aco tping) in a way that actually benefits you for playing as a flying shaman. Dont forget, totem is a summon too! Become a true summoner and use your entire power!!
     
  12. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad The forums lurker.

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    Wait, that sounds perfect for me! When you are done, could I check it out?
     
  13. _bladegoddess_

    _bladegoddess_ Well-Known Adventurer

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