Website & Forums Discourage the usage of AI to produce suggestions

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Make posts that were written by, or produced by AI in some manner (completely or partially) subject to being locked by a moderator, and state such within the guidelines for making posts within this subforum.
AI has very little knowledge as to what is good or bad for the game health of any game, and it does not have sufficient knowledge of Wynncraft to produce suggestions of any meaningful value. Further, it enables users to hastily create low effort posts - something already discouraged on this subforum - that masquerade as ones thoughtfully written out and considered by the author.
While the ethical usage of AI is largely irrelevant to the reason why I do not believe it has a place here, it would be ignorant of me to not add that AI scrapes the Internet for text - sometimes using content that the creators expressly do not want an AI to use - and then spits it back out, effectively plagiarizing the work of hundreds - potentially even including other posts from the Wynncraft forums.

 

Support. I hate ChatGPTposting.

 

It just shows a lack of personal investment in the idea, to me. It's easier to say exactly what you mean when it's words coming from your own head. Easier to fact-check information you have looked up yourself, rather than asking a computer to do it for you, then have to check again anyway because it's wrong.

 

is using ai in more of the grammar side allowed, like, imagine i want to create a badass diologue but my brain too hollow. Could I use AI to help me find fancy ass words or turn some phrases cooler?

 

AI to create wynn threads is very frustrating. Fundamentally it’s lazy, you can have an idea but you need to expand that idea into a concept to get reception and feedback, but with AI you just type in a prompt and paste it in. No thought or agency goes with the idea, and using AI to write “your” ideas out just shows that you don’t really care about the idea, you are posting for the sake of posting.


I do think ethicality should play a large role, I don’t mean this to exaggerate but it is scummy. You are passing off the mechanics of an idea as your own. You show no passion to improve the game so why should your suggestion be taken seriously. Maybe it’s not that deep to be honest.

I can’t for the life of me figure out why you would do it? You suggest something that you personally would make the game better, you gain nothing by making something with AI in this context, I just don’t understand it.

 

I don't know what kind of sway a suggestion would gain by rule of cool. People here are too objective for that.

Outside of this forum... I don't see the reason not to try to harness this skill yourself, instead of the computer only just about managing it for you.

 

i am NOT going to learn mediavel english

 

What? I don't think you really have to. WynnCraft doesn't use all that much of it as it is, at least the amount of the story quests I've gone through. It's formal in spots, maybe, but not especially ancient.

But that does reveal the crux of this issue; using AI is just about whether it looks correct, not that it is. If language that is immersive and believable for the setting was important to you, you would already be reading and internalizing it, asking questions. If it's something you want, you should engage it in earnest. Lots of fantasy writing out there; King James' Bible as the earliest foundation of the modern English language, not as a religious text, is even a good resource for writing in an age of kings.

 

Has not thou learned that the timely tongue of the land differs in days of yore?
Dost not thou know of differences 'twixt aged languages?
Know now, thee fool, that ancient lingos differ.
Oh, you, how can it be possible that you do not know of changes in language?
You are an ignorant fool, to not know this.
You should know this!
Bro, why don't you get this by now?
Bruh, don't you clock the tea of linguistic changes?
Nah fr u r cappin, ong bro has dementia.

Anyway imagine a man from 2200 classifying all of these as "medieval speak" lol
anyway only festival of the heroes uses true medieval english, and thats satirical anyhow. Even orphion, which is the closest to King James, hearkens more towards a direct Hebrew translation, unlike King James, which was influenced by Greek and Latin. But i digress. yeah ai is cringe

 

It really depends on how much the ai is influencing the suggestion if someone only uses AI to structure there words then that iss completely fine in my opinion. When I say structure I litteraly mean how the text is broken up, punctuated, and bolded. I see nothing wrong with a person using a tool to do there work better.

 

gee i wonder why you feel this way. anyway posting the word salad you were originally gonna use would have had a better reception in ur coop lootrun thread lol

 

Also something else to consider is if people that have a disability such as dyslexia which people suffering from dyslexia in general have trouble with spelling and organization. Like I previously mentioned the use of AI in the forums should depend on how it was used if they just blatently tell AI make a cool idea for me to start a forum post well that's not acceptable, but if they did put the time in to develope a concept and thought out the mechanics as well as potential risks why would that be at all bad to have AI help structure what you say.

 

Because the AI could just put what it knows from its database into a post even if you ask it to just do some rewording. AI is far from perfect and it can do stuff you didn't ask it to bc that's how it thinks it should be done based on its past learning. Another reason for this is also the Dead Internet Theory. It's super depressing and I can't imagine anyone wants that to become a reality (or is glad it happened depending on who you ask).

On the dyslexia thing, that is a valid reason, but as long as you are able to write some words so they're legible enough (e.g. "i ate appl." can easily be interpreted as "I ate an apple." to a reader) then grammar doesn't matter all too much.

 

Really makes you wonder what people that have trouble reading and writing text were using before... surely, there had been no tools since ChatGPT. They were just completely helpless before its advent, and deeply appreciate their disability and demographic being used in arguments, online, in a forum, for suggestions, for a Minecraft server.

Enough jabs from me, though. I do think that even with heavy curation, AI in the end leads to the atrophy of agency, even if (perhaps especially) the product is indistinguishable from any other regular post. I think it is important to strive in the development of your own communication skills, from information you have aggregated yourself, with tools that maximize the control of your own input. Most importantly, beyond skill, is that it will give you confidence in what you're saying, when you know you're the one that said it. You will be able to recognize and rectify your own mistakes more easily, when you take ownership of them.

 

I was just pointing out that AI is a tool and people use it to help speed up the process? I also mentioned that if it isn't there own thoughts that it wouldn't be acceptable to post... I also brought up the example of disabilities as it is an actual thing to consider; you make it out as if im exploiting someone.

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Your point on taking ideas from its sources is legitimate and good to bring up however people take insperation from games all the time when developing something so I mean if AI helps someone on there game and suggested to make a battle royal game thats not illegal even though it became popular by pubg. Game mechanics aren't illegal to copy how the game preforms those mechanics however can be. It's ultimately up to the developers to follow all laws...

 

I only accuse because I fail to see how generating a wall of text, that a visually impaired person would then have to read and verify both intended meaning and validity of, would be any easier than methods that have existed for years already e.g. changing to fonts with more distinguishable individual characters, or simply listening to pages being read out for them, then using speech-to-text dictation if they find themselves unable to read the things they type or do not trust their muscle memory. Just makes it seem like a 'gotcha' to me, rather than a legitimate concern.

This is the sort of thing that AI heralds to me: a reluctance to find, research and utilize purpose-built, effective and personal solutions in favor of platforming a confused monolith as an all-purpose tool when it can not even begin to make consistent sense of all the information it has access to all at once.

 

As funny as the nonsensical stuff in those posts always is, I'd rather not see every single post just be a bunch of AI generated slop.

 

... I've been on the suggestion forum for a bit now and have not seen AI. I doubt the OP has seen AI but I bet they assume they have - which yknow is a problem for people who can write extensively enough to convince less literate individuals that AI was used.

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Actually, I think OP should cite which posts they believe are AI. Let's see what they believe the issue is.