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Game Mechanics Remove Shift + War Scream to Cancel Corrupted.

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Xephar, Oct 27, 2023.

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Remove this feature?

  1. Yay

  2. Nay

  3. New Poll Choice* - Change the way to disable corruption to something not including spells.

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  1. Xephar

    Xephar not default CHAMPION

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    Very simple. I think that everybody can agree that this feature is unnecessary. You can switch hotbar slots to cancel corruption. It is very annoying when spell spamming for example, using Idol in TNA. Losing corruption that you build up can be very frustrating and occasionally lead to death if you cannot heal quick enough. This is supposed to be a 'feature' but is the complete opposite, please remove it. And before any of you say Wynntilis safe cast, I don't want to use that it slows down spells. Literally the only time you should want to disable your corrupted is to heal, in which case you've already swapped to HP pots or /killed and like I said if thats not the case then switch off your weapon...

    If you choose no in poll I'm going to assume you don't play Fallen Warrior at least with spell spam, or you use Wynntilis safe cast, if that's the case you probably get 3 cps and you have a lot to learn so don't ruin it for the rest of us.

    Who in there right mind uses Shift + Warscream to disable corruption instead of swapping hotbars slots, fr. You must be the kind of person who drives 20 miles through traffic lights instead of taking the highway.

    The only logic I can see behind it is to not get rid of your powder charge, in raids your powder charge will stay if you /kill and if you care so much about having your curse ready for a forgery boss fight your build is probably trash.

    If you disagree please explain why.
     
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  2. Pumpkinn

    Pumpkinn Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I find this SO annoying while I get it might be useful, u can also just change weapon for 1 second
     
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  3. Elytry

    Elytry Spitballer of the Architects

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    Potentially another reasoning (although bad) is a weapon that gives +hp (although you probably won't be healing to full health anyway.)

    Definitely a yes.
     
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  4. Xephar

    Xephar not default CHAMPION

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    I mean, you can still let your corrupted just run out as well. If you're low on HP you're going to need to switch to a pot anyways. The only time this might apply is with a weapon like Guardian, which has HP + HPR so you would be able to heal if you disabled it. But nobody uses corrupted with Guardian as far as I know, and if you are that low on HP with Guardian, why would it hurt to switch off your weapon?

    The only logical reason is to not lose your powder charge or if you need +defense or + agi from your weapon like Hero or Guardian to survive, and if thats the case thats a pretty sad build. I still challenge anyone to give me a valid reason why this feature is necessary, two of you have voted no so far.
     
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  5. Xephar

    Xephar not default CHAMPION

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    3 people have now voted no with zero explanation, I mean this why the poll exists, to show the devs if this is something people want, but I simply do not understand it and find it irritating. I added a new poll choice to change the binds to something different and not including spells, hopefully this is something we can agree on. If your answer is still no please explain why.
     
  6. point_line

    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    Don’t sneak while you cycle in charge spamming if you don’t want to uncorrupt
     
  7. Xephar

    Xephar not default CHAMPION

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    Its called heavy impact something that increases your damage significantly an ability activated by crouching while charging. Also in rooms like the void hole room for example in TNA you often end up too high in the air and have no choice but to shift.

    I also find it highly ironic that you are saying "just don't shift during spell cycle" when I have no choice in the matter. Meanwhile you are defending the most elaborate way to cancel corrupted instead of simply changing hotbar slots.

    But thank you for sharing your opinion unlike everyone else who voted no.
     
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  8. point_line

    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    Heavy impact activates even if you don’t shift, flying kick activates it too
     
  9. Elysium_

    Elysium_ Skilled Adventurer

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    Heavy impact is harder to use without shifting, though, as slamming the ground really fast can increase your damage by a lot.

    Flying kick does activate Heavy Impact, that's true.

    However, I think that there is literally no reason for you to not want to have this. Like seriously, do you every use shift-War Scream to cancel corrupted when you can just switch hotbar slots? There's no reason to have it because the only thing it does effectively is mess you up.
     
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    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    have you even played chargespam? the point is you are in the enemy's hitbox and spam charge for damage, in which flying kick will activate anyways
    if you are floating above the enemy flyby jab will not proc so you're losing damage too
    and I do use shift war scream to cancel corrupted sometimes
     
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    Elysium_ Skilled Adventurer

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    1. Yes, I have. Not shifting can lead to you going too high above the enemy and having to fall on purpose to get back in the hitbox.
    2. Yep, that’s why I shift, so I don’t lose any damage.
    3. Is it easier than just switching hotbar slots?
     
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  12. Xephar

    Xephar not default CHAMPION

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    You literally have zero clue what you're talking about, have you ever used charge spam? If you're charge spamming Greg you're going to have to heavy slam down to reach his hitbox every now and again. If you are charge spamming in general without Wyntillis safe guard on you are going to be constantly going to high in this air and have to slam down. Often, you are going to activate war scream while doing this and disable your corrupted, now you have to heal and wait for corrupted cool down just so u can lose health to do damage again. There is zero reason to have this feature realistically, as you can switch your hotbar slots, but in having it you constantly have to go through the process of resetting your corrupted.
    The most common and annoying areas this happens to me is during the void hole room in TNA, where I am charging around and constantly having to shift since the mobs are so short and close to the floor, another time this becomes extremely annoying is during loot runs, once again charging around a lot of mobs in slay challenges and it is way more annoying during this because if you're low on boons you can throw challenges easily.

    I would like to hear you give a reason why this feature is necessary instead of speaking absolute nonsense talking about "have you ever played charge spam" when if you have played charge spam, you would know damn well what we're talking about. Maybe you're not using Idol, the weapon made for charge spamming, maybe you're using Hero and you're charging 4 times in your cycle so you don't encounter this or you have Wyntillis safe case on/casting manually, which is not the way to use charge spam.

    Also give me one good reason why you would go the extra route of shift + war scream instead of clicking 2 on your keyboard??? Do you enjoy extra work or what?
     
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    Elytry Spitballer of the Architects

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    That would be comparable to shift casting smoke bomb to cancel it. (As opposed to just switching hotbar slots. Or waiting.)
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    I'm currently leveling my warrior, and I am so irritated whenever I, say, shift cancel my corrupted by accident. All that the strange mechanic is accomplishing is making me lose 15 seconds of my life I could be doing something productive with. Sure, shift uproot with masks cancels your mask. But there is no other way to switch masks and all uproot does in that form is switch masks. War scream is important for buffs, range, and crowd control. It would be like if shaman could shift cast totem to cancel all of their totems. (Rather than just getting another totem.)
     
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    Elysium_ Skilled Adventurer

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    Hell, my warrior is level 85 and I know what you’re talking about. Even if you Charge, say, 5 times in a cycle, if you’re casting at the right speed, you will go above the enemy if you aren’t shifting. It’s as simple as that.

    And you can also use the scroll wheel to switch, it’s even easier than pressing 2, barely requires any movement of your finger lol.
     
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  15. Xephar

    Xephar not default CHAMPION

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    Bump more votes please
     
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