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Game Mechanics Free powder upgrades

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by jero2002, Jan 12, 2023.

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Good idea?

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  1. jero2002

    jero2002 Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    With the flood of t6 powders from TNA raid rewards it no longer makes sense to collect lower tier powders (especially t1-3) since it costs about the same to upgrade all your powders to t6 and to buy it off the trade market.

    Side note: it will still cost emeralds to apply powder to items, so only the upgrades must become free or get a significant price cut
     
  2. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist HERO

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    They may as well make upgrading powders in bulk an option, because that's the main reason I don't collect them. I ain't gonna spend two hours doing the same three input loop just to get a bunch of T4 powders out of low tier ones.
     
  3. Krooza

    Krooza Professional dumbass HERO

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    Well the villager is still working to upgrade your powders so it should definitely cost money but I think that it should only be like 3 or 4 emeralds at most.
     
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    creature Uncorrupt, so possibly serving Dern VIP

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    It already made basically no sense to collect t1-2 powders since 64 t1 powders = 1 t4 powder and 1024 t1 powders (16 stacks) = 1 t6 powder.

    People feel kind of compelled to hoard powders so they can upgrade them but don't really think about how much you actually need to hoard.
    Powders kinda suffer from too-good-to-use syndrome. Most people I've seen with powders feel like it's a waste of powder slots to use T1-3 powders on something. The fact that the cost of upgrading powders to higher tiers is higher than the market price for the higher tier powders, allows people to actually use the lower tier powders without feeling like they're missing out on anything.

    Basically, I think that making it free to upgrade will enable more hoarders to think that it is worth it to hoard and upgrade powders. And then during the endgame when they can much more easily get good powders it'll feel like they wasted alot of effort. Which they did.
    If we want people to use lower tier powders, upgrading them should have a cost.
     
  5. luckeyLuuk

    luckeyLuuk I probably forgot that I put this here.

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    It already feels like I'm wasting a lot of effort now that I have to pay (why do I even hoard it's so dumb :salted:)

    good point though
     
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  6. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    Honestly, I wouldn't even be mad if they just removed T1-3 powders all together at this point. I never used powders in the early game since I kept changing gear fast enough for it to not be worth the time so to me, they're more of a late game item anyways and anything lower than 4 is just a waste of space. There either needs to be something to do with low tier powers or they just shouldn't exist IMO. Honestly, at this point I feel like we need powders 3.0, what we need is something like sockets in maplestory and what we have is basically just powders 1.0 with some extra spice.

    As for the suggestion though, yeah it should be free, if you do the math it's literally not worth collecting or storing anything below T3 and even then I don't think it makes sense to hold onto anything below T4.
     
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  7. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Yeah, that would just be silly... haha...
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  8. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    Lmao I didn't mean to do you dirty like that but at this point I think I'm committed to the cause :(
    To be fair though, that's exactly what my powder page looked like before I merged it with my scroll page to save space.

    Actually though, looking at that had me thinking, what if we had powder pouches which automatically compressed one type of powder into a certain tier based on the pouch sort of like emerald pouches that way you could auto compress up to T4 which would save a lot of hassle and make collecting everything worthwhile. It would solve both the tedious clicking and emerald problems and IMO now that the emerald pouch cat is out of the bag, I feel like they would be right at home in the game. I've also put 0 thought into that idea so it might be terrible, idk.
     
  9. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Lol it’s okay, don’t feel bad because I don’t really. A little silly? Yeah, but I got a good laugh out of it too so it makes up for that.

    As for your idea… heh. Like it’s not bad per se, just feel apathetic towards it.
     
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  10. Krooza

    Krooza Professional dumbass HERO

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    This is a great idea! And villagers are not doing any work so it literally won't make sense at all to have to pay for upgrades.
     
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  11. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    Yeah, thinking about it more idk how it would work since pouches would need either 20 slots which is a lot, or there would need to be 5 elements of pouches which I guess would work but idk if it's the kind of solution I want to see :(
     
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