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Game Mechanics Assassin Buff Ideas

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by AlanGreyson, Oct 30, 2022.

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Which one do you like?

  1. Shadow Clone

    83.3%
  2. Substitute

    75.0%
  3. Shadow Army

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  4. Mimicry

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  1. AlanGreyson

    AlanGreyson WynnArtist VIP

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    Someone once told me if there is a class that needs a buff, it's definitely assassin.
    So I came up with a few ideas...

    Shadow Clone
    When casting Vanish, summon 3 Clones that can attack enemies on their own.
    Damage:-30% per clone
    Cooldown: 20 seconds

    -Mirror Image but better
    -Summoner but its assassin
    -Yes, mobs can attack them. But they prioritize you more


    Substitute
    If casting Dash when Shadow Clone is active, you become permanently invisible until the clones die or the spell got undone. However, you can't attack in this state
    Effect: Invisibility
    Cooldown: 120 secs

    -No time limit vanish
    -A weird ability but hear me out
    -How can you trick the mobs if they still can target and attack you?
    -Even with clones, mobs won't treat the clone like a real player and will target you instead.
    -So we gonna make the mobs got no choice but to attack the clones only


    Shadow Army
    Add +7 clones
    Damage:-60% per clone

    -No further explanations are needed


    Mimicry
    When you cast a spell, the clone will do it simultaneously
    Damage: -30%

    -Why am I even putting a description here?
    -Yes, even when "substitute" is active


    I will post more ideas in the future but for now, enjoy this thread :)
     
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  2. point_line

    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    Are the clone damage reductions multiplicative? If not maybe consider buffing shadow army’s damage reduction.
     
  3. AlanGreyson

    AlanGreyson WynnArtist VIP

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    For now, the damage isn't multiplicative since they are alr multiplicative factors like powder special and buff but I'm too lazy to do the math rn. Will update maybe?
     
  4. Castti

    Castti Kookie

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    Trickster is the 1 assassin archetype that is mostly fine lol


    Infinite vanish got removed for a reason, it trivializes most bosses if they can't aggro at all.
     
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  5. AlanGreyson

    AlanGreyson WynnArtist VIP

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    They won't aggro at you but they do at your clones and if they all died, you'll uninvis so not bad a trade I think?
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    Plus I still haven't come up with acrobat's and shade's ideas yet
     
  6. luckeyLuuk

    luckeyLuuk I probably forgot that I put this here.

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    Can you change the poll so I can choose multiple options? now it doesn't really make sense or add anything. and add an option nothing. (I want to vote for all haha)
     
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  7. AlanGreyson

    AlanGreyson WynnArtist VIP

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    Sorry, I forgot to enable that setting.
    You good to go now ;)
     
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  8. Bixlo

    Bixlo I maybe am funny sometimes

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    This class needs a buff!
    -dmg for everything
    kinda rewrote what already exists
    based B)
     
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    meef Well-Known Adventurer

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    I like this it might be a bit to passive even with summoner you need to bull whip/Arua and not die here u can basicly afk if u make a build with good ehp then vanish the clones don’t die and do a bit of damage and take Afro for ur team and needs more ways to “trick” the opponent but this is a good start
     
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    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    So what I'm understanding from this is that you're practically invincible while the clones deal damage to enemies for you
     
  11. AlanGreyson

    AlanGreyson WynnArtist VIP

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    Yes but you'll not able to deal damage. Note: this is just a raw idea not a full on trickster rework
     
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    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    Aren't the Clones doing damage though
     
  13. AlanGreyson

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    Yes. The "you" was meant as yourself, the player. The clone can do dmg but it has reduction according to it's number
     
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    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    But then you'll be dealing free damage to the enemies with 0 risk to your own health, how is that okay?
     
  15. AlanGreyson

    AlanGreyson WynnArtist VIP

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    I'll think of a way to balance it. For now I'm too lazy :P
     
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    trickster needs improvement. but im not sure this is it.
    yes self moving clones make sense and i like the idea but 70% of your damage PER CLONE WHAT. AND THATS ONLY THE FIRST ABILITY.

    how bout clones that copy a small amount of your stats like old reaper scythe in hypixel and attack on their own, and like when they die they explode, or cast smoke bomb, or give you a short vanish. say like you also spawn a tank clone that does no damage but can draw aggro.
     
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  17. AlanGreyson

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    it's true the dmg is nuts but overtime I'll come up with some ideas to balance it :)
     
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