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Shaman Mythics needs a Buff!

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Tricko03, Oct 31, 2021.

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  1. Tricko03

    Tricko03 FANTASIAAAA!!! CHAMPION

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    Hello Wynncraft team
    I have a suggestion for a buff on the shaman, the shaman is too weak and I can judge that better than many others with many hours of play.
    There are exceptions: afteshock and toxoplasmosis, however, most shaman mythics are not good. In my last thread I didn't know why after a few thoughts about it I am now wiser: It's the Shaman! Fantasia is the best Shaman Spell Dmg weapon in the game why? It has high damage (close to Hadal) and hardly any spell costs - the negative mana stats are easy to offset. Why is this gun one of the cheapest in the game? It is (like all weapons of the Shaman, except for Toxo and Aftershock) a typical Shaman weapon, in the end all weapons focus on Aura and as much as possible. All weapons are unique, but they are far too central. While Cataclysm specializes in heavy damage without HP, Nirvana is a spell monster. Hadal or Fantasia isn't bad either, but both lack segregation.
    My suggestion is to assign more expensive spells to Hadal and return Nutral Spelldmg.
    Fantasia needs a major ID to be able to develop, how should one use 1 mana auras if they delete each other, Fantasia auras should no longer delete each other. Sunstar needs much higher main attack damage.
    Absolution 2 powder slots.
    I have no idea at Olympic!
    Thank you
     
  2. BlueTheSniper

    BlueTheSniper i makea da builds CHAMPION

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    I would argue Fantasia was the best relik in the game (before Immolation - which WILL get nerfed). Its price is less to do with its performance than you think.

    what does this even M E A N


    Fantasia is perfectly fine right now. This is what happened with old Absolution and Time Rift - dominated the shaman meta and had to be nerfed.

    I at least agree with this one.

    I don't have much experience with Hadal + I let aura reverb so I would say it's fine but I can see why that might be an uneducated assumption.

    I do feel Sunstar is underwhelming. Great weapon but outclassed by its fellow mythics - and as a thunder mythic I feel its damage should at least outclass the others by a margin. I do not think Sunstar should outperform Aftershock in melee however. A base buff + maybe -aura cost (Slayer moment)? I don't see why Immolation deserves -aura but not Sunstar.

    My ideas are not absolute fact - open to criticism
     
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    Tricko03 FANTASIAAAA!!! CHAMPION

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    Sry for my language google translator is responsible for the mistakes :)
    By that I mean that the weapons are good but basically the opposite. If you go more extreme in both directions, for example Hadal more dmg more expensive auras and Fantasia less damage for the Aura Major ID.
    Why do I think they're the opposite?
    Spellcost: Hadal expensive spells
    Fantasia: Cheap spells
    Mana:
    Fantasia: a lot of negative mana
    Hadal: a lot of positive mana.

    You have to create stimuli that the players play Shaman again. There is no Major ID in the Mythics and an incredible number in the Non Mythics. Therefore, a Major ID at Mythics would only make sense. A wise player by the name of Krokofart once said weapons must be designed for Major IDs, I think Fantasia is better than any other Mythic designed for Major IDs, because you can eliminate the weakness that only comes from the strength!
     
  4. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    Have you played with immolation?
     
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    Tricko03 FANTASIAAAA!!! CHAMPION

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    I know that Immolation is OP but I would use it as a benchmark for every Shaman Mythic, you don't know how strong Shaman can be anymore, so Immo is viewed as an OP, but it's pretty balanced when you look at Nirvana, Pure and Hero (yes Hero is still very strong) Why didn't the shaman deserve strong myths too?
     
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    Mardeknius Knight of Blood Item Team

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    Why exactly is Immolation so good? I've been confused about it for a while.
    Also the point of Olympic is the jump height - kinda like Warp, I don't think it's really supposed to be used for combat that much.
     
  7. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    I asked if he played with it, I never said it was OP.
     
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    Tricko03 FANTASIAAAA!!! CHAMPION

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    3rd Spell Reduction Insane Tanky Insane Dmg (Totem HEal like Sunstar)
    No but i know that it is OP
     
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  9. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    Have you seen anyone play with it?
     
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    Tricko03 FANTASIAAAA!!! CHAMPION

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    I saw the build in Theory so i can say on the paper it's OP idk how its good but i guess my Shaman Playstyle is perfect for it!
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    I don't have the Money for one, I bougth a Toxo but i will buy it if i can
     
  11. BlueTheSniper

    BlueTheSniper i makea da builds CHAMPION

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    I haven't
     
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    Pingu Wingu Pingu (~o-o)~ CHAMPION

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    The purpose of hadal having higher spell costs is to increase the efficacy of concentration, the armor powder special. That's also the purpose for the leggings anxiolytic. The ridiculously high mana regen is designed to counteract the +spell costs. As for fanta, rainbow items can be whatever they want, really. Also, each rainbow mythic, if you haven't already noticed, specs all of its skill point bonus into exclusively 1 skill point, which changes depending on the weapon. For fanta, for example, it's intelligence. This means that its designed to be used for more spell-oriented gameplay, which justifies the -spell cost. The -mana is designed to balance the weapon.

    I don't know if that helped but I hope it gave some clarity
     
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    BlueTheSniper i makea da builds CHAMPION

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    Orrr they were designed that way to be unique and interested. I'm not denying what you are saying but it is at least not the #1 reason for its design. Anxiolytic sucks though
     
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    strikeflame5356 what do I write here VIP

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    I agree with you here, fantasia is really good right now, but I'm a little curious what makes Immo good. I've tried building it and I can't get it to be good, so I'm curious how anyone's been able to build it well.
     
  15. Tricko03

    Tricko03 FANTASIAAAA!!! CHAMPION

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    I know it, i don't say that Rainbow Mythics are weak they are Insane, but i don't like the Shaman Mythics
     
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