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World A Few Ideas For An Ocean Update

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Samsam101, Mar 6, 2021.

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  1. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    As of right now, the ocean is one of the most untouched places in the game. You can find secret caves from years and years ago that haven't been altered since if you just look. What if it was better though? The ocean has a lot of potential as a fun area to explore, so how about we use that potential. Here's a few ideas I have for the ocean:

    1: Make the area a viable lootrunning spot
    The ocean is full of hidden caves, whether they are underwater or hidden in the world border. This change would:

    Rework most of the world border caves

    Add many more underwater caves

    Add a few extra islands for loot chests

    Make every chest on the ocean unleveled

    To expand on the above, I think it'd be nice if every single loot chest on the ocean was unleveled like the one in Troll Tower, because then the level of the chests aren't 60 like a lot of the mobs in the ocean but instead anywhere from 1-100 depending on your level when you open them. If these changes were implemented I would lootrun on the ocean instead of Sky Islands and Molten Heights, because the ocean is such a nice place and it would be fun to explore while gathering loot.

    2: Secret discoveries
    Might make a thread about ocean discoveries one of these days but for now I'll just say some details.

    The discoveries would scale from levels 20-60 (I know it's a wide gap but the ocean is full of different levels)

    The ultimate discovery would probably be on Mage Island and give us a look at Sarnfic before its destruction

    Really can't think of anything else right now so I'll just leave it to the ocean discovery thread

    edit: those ones suck so look at the ones made by the lore discord instead

    3: Treasure digging
    Not my idea, this thread actually inspired this whole post.

    Digging could be a new profession, but I don't see how other materials could be integrated into this. Thus I think it should instead be sold by a new Shovel Merchant on beaches around the world. Depending on where you are, you'll get different stuff. E.G Half Moon Island will give you weird cult charms, Tree Island will give you weird branches etc. There could be a ''Buried item merchant'' added to selchar who buys all of this stuff.

    4: Seavale Reef
    Seavale reef is a nice way of making money, though very inefficient. It wouldn't be too hard to add some even rarer items to it so that it becomes more effective

    5: Better boats
    I suggested this last year and it wasn't very popular, but it fits with this thread and I'd like to see if people's opinions on it have changed. The old version was awful, so I'm going to make a new version:

    The new sailboats would be block models. You could buy them from all Boat Merchants at ports for 10 LE each and they would work just like rowboats, but would be much larger and would be able to seat 6 more people. You could decorate it with the flag of your guild, and maybe the proximity speed thing with rowboats could be used here with guild boats or something. When I first had this idea, 1.20 had yet to be shown off and thus I did not expect the awesome new ITEM MODELS we got in the update. Thus I think it would be better if the rowboat was made similarly to Orphion and stuff like that.

    6: A lively ocean
    Haven't you noticed that the ocean seems a little... empty? The only mob you'll probably ever see on the ocean is a Powder Imp or one of the squids near that small archipelago just by Corkus. As for the bottom of the ocean, there's nothing but flat expanses of sand. Here's how this could be fixed:

    Ocean terraforming to make the bottom of the sea look less blocky and lazy. Along with this would be some nice ocean habitats like rocks and small coral reefs.

    More sea life could be added in the form of block model fish, replaced by actual fish on 1.13+ clients. It'd be really nice to see some dolphins and fish gliding around. There could also be hostile sea creatures like sea monsters and guardians

    A bunch of random fishing nodes on the ocean would make the area seem more like shoals of fish are swimming around. Along with this would be the feature that you can fish whilst within boats ( @Shots ) because it'd make sense and so that you don't have to tediously get out of your boat to get the oceanic fish nodes.

    7: Island reworks
    A lot of islands are in dire need of reworks, such as Maro Peaks which is hated because of the mobs that have pull and push spell. Honestly removing those and adding some more sign posts would fix Maro peaks as well as removing the stupid helmet requirement. More examples of islands that could receive reworks include Dead island, Volcanic isles, Skien island and Half moon island. It'd also be nice to see some new islands added.

    8: Add diving spots back with a change
    Diving spots were a really neat feature added in 1.20 that made the world feel a little more lively and made an easy way for proffers to mass-fish. This was added by Selvut after a misconception and removed afterwards as salted did not like the idea. Salted did not like the idea because he found it annoying to have to dive into complete darkness to get fish, other than that he liked the idea of a gathering spot with a catch.

    So here's all that needs to be done:

    Add them back and make it so that when you dive in these areas you gain night vision.

    Immediately, the problem is solved.

    That's all I can really think of for now, let me know how you feel about these ideas
     
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  2. thepicferret

    thepicferret Chief of Avicia, Send help wynncraft addicted HERO

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    Fishing on a boat?!?

    Tbh the ocean is my favorite area of wynn, a rework is needed so badly to make it feel alive +1 from epic ferret :)

    I do like the fact that most of it is just gor exploration without rewards other than the discovery itself tho
     
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  3. im_a_waffle1

    im_a_waffle1 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    I like this
     
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  4. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Great compilation of suggestions.
    Personally I'd prefer a Fruma update first, but this would be good to have sometime reasonably soon.
     
  5. Da Homeboi

    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    As soon as you said secret discoveries, I could not help but say yes.

    I actually kind of have a few of them that I made in another thread, and I'm looking forward to what they could be.
     
  6. HV_Metal

    HV_Metal Convergence VIP

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    These proposed ideas are very nice, imo terraforming the ocean is a crucial step to making it better. It's simply too awful to look at the flat seabed of emptiness. Diversifying the seabed would also offer a nice base for creating more natural looking cave systems that could hide more chests.

    I'd personally also like to see some of the landmass along the borders taken down and replaced with water, so the ocean actually feels like an... ocean... and not a giant lake like it is now.
     
  7. fishcute

    fishcute fish CHAMPION Builder

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    Could we also have the coastlines changed to make the ocean not a rectangle? For me the ocean is the worst part of the online map because of its boring shape
     
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  8. im_a_waffle1

    im_a_waffle1 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    NEMRACT ISLAND
     
  9. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    I forgot to mention a Galleon's Graveyard rework as well as CGG but I'm pretty certain both of those are coming next update anyway
     
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  10. Potatomancer

    Potatomancer Budget Wither

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    I vaguely remember getting yeeted 1000 blocks away from Maro Peaks because of this.

    Also good idea
     
  11. _purplegiraffe_

    _purplegiraffe_ Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Thread reopened on OP's request.
     
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  12. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Reopened because people actually care about the ocean now and I might add more stuff now that I'll actually be thinking about the region

    Edit: Added a new part to the thread as well as a few edits
     
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  13. DaCorruption

    DaCorruption Serves Dern.

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    I agree with most of these, as someone who worked on the Ocean Rework I'd say check out the ocean lore rewrite for some plausible secret discoveries. Sailboats and island reworks sound nice, but I disagree with Maro Peaks getting its climbing helmet requirement removed because at the level in which you explore Maro Peaks you probably wouldn't have class builds anyway. Plus Maro Peaks is supposed to be a level restricted area and it at least gives purpose to the Ice Nations quest
     
  14. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Maro peaks and the helmet requirement is based around outdated content from a time where helmet reqs were all over the place. It doesn't make sense to be in the game anymore, and is annoying for anybody who just wants to go to the island
     
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    DaCorruption Serves Dern.

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    Fair. Though I still think the climbing helmet can have some use, maybe you can trade in the helmet for permanent access to the island somewhere, such as in the Zhight Island quest.
     
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    Hansby Interdimensional Traveler Staff Member Moderator

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    When I learned about Sarnfic and its implications with Dern, I was really excited, but I didn't have the opportunity to learn more. Truly the addition of Secret Discoveries around it may cover that issue. I wanted to know more about it.
     
  17. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    bump because i updated sailboats and treasure digging
     
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    Add the night vision to the water breathing helmet instead of making it randomly tied to specific areas imo.
     
  19. Potatomancer

    Potatomancer Budget Wither

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    That destroys builds tho
     
  20. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    How? Dive spots were already designed as an optional location where you use a diving helmet
     
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