Game Mechanics Cci Rework, New Identifications, And Boss Diary

Well, it's another month, so time to post another one of these. I've had more free time lately, because of that I might start posting suggestions more often. Anyways, enough with me rambling; it's time to get talking about what it is that I am proposing.

This suggestion aims to look at some different things that I feel would work well in the world of wynncraft. This includes changing CCI, adding more identifications, adding a diary for keeping track of bosses, and adding new gimmicks to existing bosses.
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Spoiler: CCI Rework

CCI, crowd-control immunity, is a problem that needs to be addressed. In theory, it is a good idea to give bosses more versatility. The issue is that CCI is overused and instead lowers the amount of versatility one has with their spells. Wynncraft already has an issue with a lack of spells so by taking away 90% of the power of at least one spell per class; you hurt spell variability even more. CCI even ruins class suggesting, something I’ve truly come to love. My class, my beloved warlock, is useless with CCI. Recently I was invited to help with a project in providing support in some class suggestions. The classes looked great but there was one constant issue; CCI damaged fundamental properties of certain spells or even the class itself. My solutions are as follows: Make CCI a scale, meaning KNOCKBACK effects are reduced by that much. This scale can dip in the negative to allow mobs to get thrown around with ease. Stationary mobs are immoveable of course. Secondly, give mobs Status effect resistance. This is the same idea but it cannot go into the negative. These two things being separate means you can have a boss that cannot be slowed or stunned but you can abuse knockback to make up for that. Overall I think this will make CCI a much more interesting mechanic and easier to balance around.

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Spoiler: New Identifications

I know people will be uneasy about new ID's. these sorts of things can make or break the meta in wynncraft. These might need balancing but personally I think that they are unique enough to at least be considered.

Knockback Resistance: No longer limited to mobs. Has a cap of +80% to ensure you don’t get CCI. appears in both positive and negative values. Positive is mostly on fire items. Negative is mostly on air items.
Examples: Base +18% on guardian
Base +38% on Statue
-21% base on stratiformis

Status Resistance: Gives reduced status effect duration. Caps at 40%. Appears as both positive and negative.
Examples: Base +23% on Nullification
Base -17% on Statue
On most items the number is quite low.

Pet Damage: appears in both % and raw, positive and negative. Gets divided by the number of pets you have out. Not at all bound to any type of item.
Examples:
King of hearts: Base -1000000 pet damage raw
Necklace (new): Teamwork: rarity: legendary | Level: 97 | Health: -350 | -32 all elemental defences | +23-101 pet damage raw (78 base) | +12-52% pet damage (40 base) | +4-16% walk speed (base 12)
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Spoiler: Boss ID's

"Boss ID's" are what I've called passive abilities that bosses are given. these abilities spice up the fight without adding in new spells or attacks. Here are the ideas I have come up with. If you have any ideas comment them and I might add them to this section (crediting you of course)
When you enter a fight with a Boss ID you receive a chat message written in light blue saying "This boss is stronger then most, it has access to a powerful ability. [ability here]"

Dr. Legendary: Bomber: Deal 8% increased damage per explosive within a 4 block radius.

Antikythera Supercomputer Core: Reflective Circuits: reflect 1% of damage taken back to the player. This damage is unaffected by thorns/reflection.

(Corrupted)Theorick: Frozen Spirit: Theorick is immune to slows and freezes (Theorick himself does not have any effect resistance)

Cluckles, Mooington, Baabs: One of us: Immune to pet damage

Death: Soul Harvester: Upon killing a player gain +25% damage dealt and damage resistance. Resets upon the arena being empty.

(Mecha)Corrupter of Worlds: Charge Attack: Deal 20% increased damage for 2 seconds if the corrupter of worlds has moved 8 blocks before dealing any damage.

Shadow Amadel + Blade of Shade: Shadow Vengeance: KIlling a blade of shade or shadow amadel results in all blade of shades and shadow amadels in a 3 block radius gaining 15% damage and damage resistance for 5 seconds. This does stack upon killing multiple.

Fully-Formed Amadel: Weakening Presence: All players within 8 blocks have their elemental defences reduced by 50%

Corrupted Amadel: Weakening Crystal: Deal 20% more damage to players within 3 blocks of a crystal.

Lari: Pacifism: Deal 50% increased damage to players above half health. Deal 40% reduced damage to players below half health.

The Eye: Eternal Gaze: Every 15 seconds in the fight increase the eye’s damage by 6%
(resets each phase)

(Corrupted)Garoth: Extinction: deal 15% increased damage when there are no creepers in the arena.

Rymek Luke: Precision: Arrows deal 4% increased damage per block travelled.

Corpus(Corkus)accipientis: Randomly change all elemental stats for new ones every 10 seconds. (Give each phase elemental stats now)

Plague (Virus) Doctor: Swarm: Deal 1% extra damage per minion within 7 blocks

Qira: Power Vacuum: Powder specials charge 80% slower off of Qira

(Corrupted)Slykaar: Life Essence: Increases damage dealt equal to half of the percentage of HP the player is missing

Redbeard: Hurricane: CC spells are 35% more effective

Gregg’r: Orcish Fury: Gain a damage boost equal to half percentage of HP missing

Corrupted Charon: Lifelink: A player gaining life while within 5 blocks of Charon causes Charon to heal the same amount.

Psychomancer: Chaos: Every 12 seconds increase the walkspeed, projectile speed, mana regen speed (player), attack speed, health regen speed, and spell cast cooldown (boss) on both the players and psychomancer by 10% (I'm half joking on this one)

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Spoiler: Boss Diary

This boss change is cool and all but it really needs something else to compliment it. That is where the Boss Diary comes into play. The boss diary is intended to inform you about the bosses you have encountered. You unlock a boss in the diary by fighting it. You are considered to have fought the boss after either you damage it or it has damaged you.

The tab in the quest book to access this section replaces the mini-quest access point. You now access the mini-quests through the book where you currently see % of total quests complete. That button now shows both percentages and toggles between quests and mini-quests.

The tab is marked by a wither-skeleton skull.

Encountered bosses are shown with the mob head of the boss hovering your cursor over them says the bosses name and “Click for more details”. Unencountered bosses appear as X’s. hovering your cursor over them says “You haven’t encountered this boss yet”

Spoiler: Description of the page for people that want to be confused

The page on the boss displays the following information:
The bosses name
The bosses level
There is an iron sword. Hovering your cursor overtop of it allows you to see the bosses damage
There is a chestplate: Hovering your cursor overtop of it allows you to see the bosses health and defences
There is an ender pearl: Hovering your cursor overtop of it allows you to see the bosses spells
There is a nether star: Hovering your cursor overtop of it allows you to see the Boss ID if there is one.
There is a blaze powder: Hovering your cursor overtop of it allows you to see the bosses ai type
There is a nametag: Hovering your cursor overtop of it allows you to see some lore surrounding the boss
along the bottom there are tabs (paper) allowing you to cycle between boss phases. If you haven’t fought a specific phase of the boss yet hovering your cursor over that tab reads “you haven’t encountered this phase yet”

Spoiler: Photos of the diary

Huge shoutout to @dr_carlos for making some GUI for me. It's really helped this suggestion come to life.

The quest data point. When you swap to mini-quests you will see data on that.


Access point of the boss diary. The levels are based off of recommended level encountered


Main page. Only Corrupted Theorick has been fought so far.


Boss head, name, and mob level.


Damage info. Would have actual numbers but the wiki didn't have them


Defences and hp. Once again would have numbers, we just couldn't find them


Spell(s)


ai type


Lore. Every boss has some.


Boss ID if applicable


Phase selector

Spoiler: Bosses in the book

I don't think every boss on the wiki's boss page is really a boss. Some of them are just "enemy that can take a bit more damage". here are all of the bosses that are actually in the book.

Dr. Essen
Pigman Overlord
Well Witch
Sayleros’ Brother
Haunted Mask
Cluckles
Colossal Rat
Corrupted Santa
Etus the Blind
Albert the Strong
Pharoah Nabak
The Mummy
The Cockatrice
Snow Bear
Argaddon
Witch-Doctor
Guardian
Chained Beast
Alkevo
Death
Treasure Guardian
Possessed Aryn
Thorned Beast
Malignant Beast
Corrupter of Worlds
Fully Formed Amadel
Corrupted Amadel
Shadow Amadel
Aenara
Mooington
Baab
Bob’s Reincarnation
Mangled Progeny
Theorick (alive)
Aledar
Tasim
Insane Thief
Gregg’r
The Quartron
Defective Guard Golem
Tower Maiden
Biohazard Amalgamate
Confused Witch
Bigfoot
Grootslang Wyrm
Warden of Wisdom
Volatile Fleris
Poclo Wabblebuff of Gelibord
Uggword Pollywagon the Murderous
Yahya - The final form
Lari
Tunnel Dweller Cheiftan
Carnivorous Plant
Pirate queen
The Razorouse King
Gryndilin Chief
Grand Mage Vidobe
Big Butch
Representative Ernold
Your Reflection?
Corpus Accipientis
Psychomancer
Spirit of Gale
Genesis-Revorse
Oceanic Judge
Solar Vanguard
Qira, Mistress of the Hive
Massive Troll Guardian
Veekhat the Minotaur
Krolton
Captain Goldenclaw
Abduce the Barbarian
Kiriost of the Molten Arrow
Delinaed the Wise
Ockar of the Unseen Blade
Pens'r of The Dark Blade
Datrin of The Dark Blade
Dogbon of The Dark Blade
Infective Endocarditis
Drygioni Enchantress
Airship Captain
Steam Mech-DM1
Fiery Mech-DM2
Intelligent Mech-DM3
Big Boss Mech-DM666
Temple Key Guard
Mech X
Maxi-M Mobile Cannon 04
Maxi-M Combat Disruptor 02
Maxie
Witherhead
Arakadicus
Garoth
Charon
Hashr
Theorick
Slykaar
Redbeard
Corrupted Witherhead
Corrupted Arakadicus
Corrupted Garoth
Corrupted Charon
Corrupted Hashr
Corrupted Theorick
Corrupted Slykaar
Antikythera Supercomputer core
The Eye
Durum Protector
Haros
Rymek Luke
The Beast
Olux Plague Doctor
Tribe Zombie Chief
Blade of Shade
Revenant of Skien
Grand Magus
Mining Mech TERA-4M
Adamastor
Orange Wybel
Panic Zealot
The Grootslang Wyrmlings
Orphion, the light beast
The Parasite
The Colossus
The Mummyboard
Corkus Virus Doctor
Corkus Accipientis
Matrojan Idol
YahyaBot V4.04
Death Metal
Mechocorrupter of worlds
Robob’s reinvention
Orange Cybel
Dr. Legendary
Mama Zombie
Matryoshka Idol
General Skien
Kronos
Phoenix Prince

Spoiler: tldr:

CCI is on a scale and separated between status effects and knockback.
Pet damage, knockback reduction, and status effect protection are all ID's.
Bosses can have passives
There is a section of your questbook to keep track of bosses

Well that's all for now. I hope that you guys like what I've created and that this thread can receive some support. See you all when I have my next idea.
It let me center spoilers but somehow that made it more cursed​

 

Yes, yes except status resistance, no, and yes.
Your last one reminds me of the Beastiary suggestion I made a while ago...

 

mob or player status resistance? Mobs with CCI already have immunity to this.

 

Will write lore for each of them if you want me to.

 

sure that would be really cool. I was going too but then I realized how many bosses 139 is.

 

player status

 

owo, this looks really cool! Boss Diary is a really cool addition, and gives a lot more information to bosses you have bested while giving some more Lore. (I've always been a fan of Bestiaries giving some more insight on enemies and some flavor text.). It also gives you a sense of the accomplishments you made across your journey, as you slowly fill in the percentages. Also, Boss IDs also look pretty good. It makes a lot of the bosses have an extra touch of uniqueness and more flavor to a fight... however.

This kinda highlights a big issue with some Boss IDs. Getting hit by something you had no idea of knowing. If I had no idea there's an effect during my first time, or maybe up to my second or third time that can destroy me just because I didn't know, that becomes unfair. The Antikythera is a huge example of this, literally getting hit by something you cannot see. Also, since the Player is meant to do a lot more damage to bosses than enemies dealing damage to you, this makes players with no Defense, low health, or no Health Regen say "Guess I'll just die". Don't get me wrong, most of the Boss IDs are good, and subtle enoguh so that it doesn't have too much of an impact while playing. However, Eye's Eternal Gaze can make it feel unfair for the player not knowing why suddenly doing about 64% more damage 4 minutes in, and Psychomancer/Panic Zealot doing Chaos without any indicators can be a situation between life and death, especially Panic Zealot that requires a lot of foreknowledge to do right.

Status Resistance is cool. Idk how much mileage people are going to get out of Pet Damage considering you can only get them from Crates and only go up to Lv. 20, so that would be pretty unnecessary. Also, idk how people are going to get out of Knockback Resistance, since mobs often move players via Push/Pull Ability anyways, not knockback and mobs that actually hit the player back farther than normal for their basic attack is very rare. Still, it would be neat to have just as a niffy add-on. Tho, I feel like players worry more about hitstun rather than the knockback of enemies.

As for CCI, CCI is a bad thing that can make bosses a dumpster fire for classes and get crushed in that they can't use their spells optimally which is a core design of their gameplay. However, admitly, pre 1.20, Shaman Aura did basically wreck almost every boss, but 1.20 made Shaman Aura ineffective against almost every boss. With the Knockback system, while it will fix the other classes' spells useful again for CCI mobs, you would kinda have a return to the former with Shaman Aura being OP. Also, a Knockback system surprising already exists with Corruptor of Worlds actually having slight Knockback Resistance. Having a greater emphasis on that system to replace CCI would be great, amazing even. Tho, idk how you could work around the Shaman's Paradox of Aura being incredibly powerful, or do almost nothing.

 

there is a free one last I checked. Damage stops receiving buffs at level 20.

honestly it would turn into a case of shaman is broken against some bosses and useless against others. Shaman as a whole needs to be looked at.

chaos was partly a joke seeing as well it’s whole purpose is just to make a fight be as stressful as possible. Panic zealot probably shouldn’t have this though.

the antikythera one is probably a flawed ID. Balancing mobs is far from my specialty. You comment about not knowing on your first time made me realize that I should add something that pops up in chat when you enter the boss fight.

 

yes sir, the boss book is actually something that I might suggested too in one of my threads but yours is clearly well done and should defenetly be added.

 

great suggestions! +1

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gamer-high-dead-minecraft-you-have-died-gif-16418364

oh god this would suck but make it so hard

 

+1 to CC reduction as opposed to CC immunity. Poor Shaman is so flimsy when fighting bosses.

 

LETS GO

 

@Slaepy bear can you please explain why you voted no?

 

CCI would be better redone with each boss having a scale for each spell, as well as separate resistances to each part of aura. One value for all spells might still either have some spells made useless or other spells still too powerful.

Knockback resistance as an ID would make many bosses much less exciting, although status effect duration and pet damage are ok I guess. (assuming push and pull are counted as knockback)

Boss ID's would be great as they make bosses more unique and interesting (although I haven't looked at the suggested IDs individually and they may need balancing as Xeabia noted earlier), and the Boss diary would allow the player, without using the wiki a ton, to understand what the bosses are doing even with boss IDs, knockback resistances, and spells, so it doesn't feel like a "spray and pray" fight.

 

Bump10char

 

I am unsure for CCI because I dont fully understand that subject, but all those additions to bosses are absolutely golden, if not diamond!

 

Mage and assassin both have a way of removing this so eh.

God no. 1% damage is still a lot of health to the player.

I think he's a stationery boss? (well stationery as in he only moves when he teleports) so kinda useless?

Kinda useless since most players solo.

Elemental defences are not good anyway. Won't change much.

Rymek luke 1 hit kills every class at level no matter what, this more just makes it harder for higher classes

Does redbeard have any? Only one I can think of is wave? Or is push now gonna be stronger?

 

yeah but shaman, archer, and warrior all have to deal with it.

this, along with all of the boss ID’s, are just concepts to showcase my idea.

the idea is that wave, push, and pull would all be more effective.

 

I'm just more of the opinion give them a way to get rid of statuses (because seriously most of the statuses suck)

Makes more sense there, Boss ID's would be cool, just not some of those

NO! JUST NO! Wave sure but push and pull suck ;-;

 

Pet ids are kinda odd, I don't know if they're necessary. I really like the other identifications! I've been suggesting and toying with that idea for a while now, definitely makes push and pull spells less annoying.

The boss ids are a cool idea in theory, they just need some work on the specifics (however, the one for the eye does push back a bit against tank meta and makes it genuinely challenging). But at the same time, players should be aware of what's happening. The eye's phases and minigames give an introduction to new mechanics (laser minigame when the lasers become more of a problem, chat message for the wretch, etc), and without this, I think the fight would be a lot more annoying for players.

Definitely love cci rework and boss diary, those I wouldn't change much if at all. Cool suggestions!