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Add An Alternate Way To Enter Orphion Raid On Your 2nd+ Class

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by WithTheFish, Jan 29, 2021.

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yes or no

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity

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    too lazy to see if this was suggested before.


    Let's face it, 99.9% of the community isn't pleased about having to basically watch a 3-hour movie on every class if they want to do the orphion raid on said class. So here's a proposed solution:

    Upon beating the orphion raid, you have like a 20% chance of getting some untradable item, I'll just call it the Light Relic. If you take the Light Relic to some place in like the Light Forest on any class, they instantly get teleported to raid entrance, bypassing all 5 Realm of Light quests.

    This wouldn't necessarily discourage players from ever doing the RoL quests on another class either, as they'll still give XP and exclusive items.

    Let me know what you think of this.
     
  2. Castti

    Castti Kookie

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    PLEASE dont make me sit through 2 hours of cutscenes to do a raid that's needed for half the tomes.
     
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  3. Ichikaaa

    Ichikaaa woop woop CHAMPION

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    Tutorial 2.0
     
  4. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang!

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    Please add a poll.
     
  5. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity

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    done
     
  6. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Nah:
    1- it would make no sense in the lore, if you got that then technically Lari and Bak’al wouldn’t have gone to dern (or wherever)
    2- a 20% chance would be way too low
    3- it’s a good quest W h y
    4- it just straight up removes all the effort required for it and at that point you can’t even call it a quest
     
  7. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity

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    1 - A good majority of the players don't care about lore, and just want to play the game
    2 - fair point, would something like 33% chance be better?
    3 - I personally don't like some of the quests in the questline, and you can always still play the quest on that class if you want.
    4 -
     
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  8. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    1- The ct is not gonna just destroy the lore they’ve been working on for years just for one item. It would be like ripping up the Mona Lisa and using it for toilet paper
    2- if it’s low percentage then there’s a pretty low chance that this is gonna effect you if it’s a high chance then they’re gonna be really cheap and common on tm and remove the point of doing the quest even once
    3-ok it’s not that good
    4- xp sure nice half a level which you could grind in like five minutes. They can use the bank to transfer the quest rewards and let’s be honest the main reason you’re gonna do this quest is for the raid so many will just go “quest bad, I buy item and I skip quest!”
    Extra: how the hell you gonna leave it theres no bridge to the nexus of light
     
  9. Ichikaaa

    Ichikaaa woop woop CHAMPION

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    To put in perspective how long this takes, The Envoy quests to unlock all of Corkus take maybe 30 minutes tops. The Dwarves and Doguns quest chain still takes under an hour, if you’re decently efficient. Even the SE quests take under an hour.
    Nearly three hours just to unlock something that you have to do on all of your classes is really rough in comparison.

    Tutorial took less than five minutes, and even doing that on all of your classes one after another to access the game again was dreadful for a large majority of players.

    It’s not that bad if you’re leveling them all fresh. Doing the tutorial once per class isn’t too bad. Doing all of these quests needed to unlock features each play through is not bad either.
    But these classes are already leveled and it’s the only thing needed to do on them, so it’s just RoL after RoL after RoL after RoL and it becomes so repetitive that it’s easy to burn yourself out. It’s a simple QoL change that I don’t think takes much away from the game.
     
  10. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang!

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    Bruh the whole point is that The RoL questline, with a total of 51394812571478897616 cutscenes with an averge length per cutscene of 28395137686 minutes takes way too long just to complete 1 raid.

    And anyway, you still have to do it, probably at least 2 or 3 times
     
  11. Bixlo

    Bixlo I maybe am funny sometimes

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    saying it again for truth
     
  12. NotFunny

    NotFunny Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    I feel like the rol questline should still be required for the raid, but the snorefest aka unskippable dialogue/cutscenes should either be made shorter in length or have fewer of them (there's like seven of them in rol 3... why...)
     
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  13. Yraw

    Yraw Water Fountain

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    1. There's already a ton of 'lorebreaking' things that are there for mechanics, dungeon masters, key guardians, miniquests, /skiptutorial, this in my mind would just be the same thing as skiptutorial (Also it's still untradable, so you could only do it if you did the raid once, needing you to at least have done the questline once before)
    2. 1 in 5 is a pretty good chance if you ask me, and again it's going to be untradable
    4. XP is still XP, also a lot of players don't want to see a bunch of quests incomplete in their quest books, and again, it's still not tradable, so you would need to do the quest at least once through to be able to skip it

    I would be fine with having the quest be required but cmon 3 hours of cutscenes is just too much, even for most movies. At the very least add a /skipdialogue command.
     
  14. alexphilgab

    alexphilgab The Godsent CHAMPION

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    Why not but not like that so for me its a no, It could be better if it works like the tutorial (you can choose to skip the questline and dont receive any reward except the quests items and the quests completed in your book) in this way it does not break the lore and its interesting to do if you just want to acess the raid itself .
     
  15. Nukewarmachine

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    Would the light relic be a single-time use item, or would it have unlimited uses? And for a class which hasn’t yet completed realm of light 5, would they still be able to access the orphion raid if they use the light relic again (or after using another light relic, assuming the item being single-use is true) after leaving the realm of light?
     
  16. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    Just to make sure nobody who hasn't done the quests once before doesn't get it we should make it soulbound.
     
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    Bwitty03 Famous Adventurer

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    that would go against the point of the item, did you mean untradeable?
     
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  18. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM

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    wynncraft the movie 2: lari has a 2-hour long mental breakdown about light while the player does everything better featuring cannabis
     
  19. aFireBlaze

    aFireBlaze DM another mod if you have any appeals with me CHAMPION

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    Yes please. The quest is cool and all for the first time but having to run again through arguably the longest questline in comparison to doing Silent expanse or Doguns is pretty mind numbing.
     
  20. Melkor

    Melkor The dark enemy of the world

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    The cutscenes aren't terrible in my opinion, but the lagkour with no spells is something else. I literally only care because "you cannot use spells here" is the worst, and I mean worst.
     
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