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Two Simple Messages To Help New Players

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Mac N Cheese Man, Nov 9, 2020.

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Do You Support This Idea And All It Stands For So Help Me God?

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  2. No (Tell me why)

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  3. Kind of/Could be changed (How so)

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  1. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    Recently my friend ended up doing the Misadventure On The Sea quest, and ended up hating it. This was because he is an idiot, and didn't have particles on.

    Similarly, many new players have issues with the game as they are on a version that is highly buggy, and unstable for Wynncraft, instead of being on the least buggy and most stable version: 1.12.2.

    Any player who comes across these issues might just quit, as they think the game would be poorly designed and not worth their time... Which they are wrong, of course, but they don't know that.

    Seing as particles are a large part of the game, as they indicate many things, and that the game not breaking whenever you do anything is also pretty wanted, there should be a solution to this.

    The fix I propose for these issues is simple: When a player makes a new character they will get title messages (as in the type of message when finding a new big discovery) saying something along the lines of "please use 1.12.2, as it works best" and "make sure to have particles enabled, as this server uses a lot of them" (of course it wouldn't exactly say that, that is just the rough idea).
    Good idea? Yes then cool, no then why, could be changed then how.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. TigerYaisou

    TigerYaisou Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    absolutely, I've seen more "bug reports" than I can count that are fixed by switching versions
    and why on EARTH would you play wynn without particles
     
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  3. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    Some people are just born stupid...
     
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  4. saltii

    saltii Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Or hear me out... some people aren't stupid and have bad computers.
    REVOLUTIONARY, I KNOW.
     
  5. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    @Dwicey what do you want changed?
     
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  6. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist HERO

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    Get a good computer then
    It is easy, just huhhh... steal your parents' credit card!
     
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  7. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    Damn shots fired
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    No, my friend is just stupid
     
  8. Dwicey

    Dwicey mmmyes CHAMPION

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    I do not like the idea of recommending one version as a server wide message.
     
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  9. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    how can you hate the best quest in the game
     
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  10. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    But it’s the version that works best. Why would they say to not play in that version? There is a ton of bug reports because people weren’t in 1.12.2
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    No particles ruin it
     
  11. fishcute

    fishcute fish CHAMPION Builder

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    A better solution would be to instead use forced particles where particles are necessary to be seen. These ignore the player's particle settings, although idk if optifine can block them. I might test that
     
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  12. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    That's a thing?
     
  13. fishcute

    fishcute fish CHAMPION Builder

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    Yes, and it was added in 1.8 too so I'm not sure why they don't use them in small amounts already
     
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  14. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    Even though it has been confirmed to be the best one by practically everyone? Which one do you like more:

    1. Players playing on the wrong version and getting a worse experience, until someone has to go to the trouble to tell them to change versions. Bad on both sides, even if it is a more minor inconvinience.

    2. Players instantly getting on the correct version and having a better playing experience.

    I personally do not see a problem in the server-wide message.
     
  15. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Oh no! Not server discrimination! That's serverist!
     
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  16. TigerYaisou

    TigerYaisou Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    i had a bad comp till not long ago, you can just use optifine with reduced particles, rather than turning them off. works just fine
     
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    Dwicey mmmyes CHAMPION

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    I would rather see a suggestion to stop supporting 1.9-.x-1.11.x and 1.16+ if they lead to undesirable player experiences. Having a recommended version in chat just doesn't feel right, I would rather have a server stop supporting all non-stable versions.
     
  18. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    Well, that is a fair point, and I do have also thought myself why they just won't drop the support on those versions.
     
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  19. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    Because those older versions (specifically 1.12.x) is what Wynn is actually running on and updating the game at this point is basically the same as remaking it. They can't (for the most part anyways) update their code and plugins to a new version by just replacing "1.8.x" with "1.16.x" as there have been massive changes to how the game fundamentally works.

    At this point, I honestly think we're more likely to see Wynncraft 2 then Wynncrafts code being updated to 1.16+

    Also, feedback for the OP; It would be cool, but I think it would be annoying to constantly see the notification when I log in, and chat spam is already bad as is. I think the best fix is to make it show before the tutorial starts, that way people read it when they're sitting on a black screen waiting for the quest to actually start, plus you only see it once per character which should be plenty.
     
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  20. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    Sure
     
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