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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by quadblast24, Nov 1, 2020.

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1. Should This Gamemode be Added to Wynncraft 2. Should it be Unlocked at Level 80 or Over?

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  2. 1. No

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  3. 2. Yes

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  4. 2. No

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  1. Ankarin

    Ankarin Wise Mystical Tree CHAMPION

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    @quadblast24

    The milestone quests

    The mercenary

    This quest is usually your first taste of the almuj desert, making it a great milestone quest.

    The heart of llevigar
    first quest in the gavel province, why not?

    The passage
    an overall get good quest, plus it unlocks a powerful fast travel point.

    Temple of legends
    Go on, complain why i put this here, it is a good milestone quest.

    The envoy Pt. 1
    it unlocks entrance to another new province.

    And lastly, you all saw this coming
    A journey beyond
    i don't need to explain why its here.
     
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  2. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Pls include exact levels.


    This is like lvs 30, 40, 56?, 68, 80, 100
    Could be more consistent.
    I would replace the Mercenary and the Passage.
     
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  3. quadblast24

    quadblast24 The Chronologer VIP

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    So instead of The Mercenary (which would be a very good quest for this except it's level 28 not closer to 20) You could do Misadventure on the Sea which is good but it's not precise. Grave Digger is a better option in general. It's exactly level 20 and although it requires exercise (scary), it leads you to Nemract.
    Now this one is a bit wishful thinking but a quest leading you into Fruma (if it's level 60 as some people predict) would be best here otherwise I'll throw out The Order of the Grook as a random possibility.
    Hopefully a good level 60 quest will pop up.

    Possibly Milestone Quests could come up every 10 levels though.
     
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  4. Ellphant

    Ellphant [they/them] stop and smell the flowers, won't you? HERO

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    Ok, it's my turn to suggest milestone quests! I agree with a lot of these quests, but here's what I would do:

    Deja Vu (Level 14):
    I feel that some of the quests should reflect what you're going to unlock. With Deja Vu, you get yeeted back in time and in my opinion experience a quest different from what you have experienced so far. Up until this point, you have only done quests that teach you something (like Elemental Excercise) or are pretty basic at heart, like Infested Plants. Unleveled mode is going to be a new, unique experience. Some of the quests you do should demonstrate "unique".

    The Mercenary (Level 28)

    Same reasons as stated previously.

    The Heart of Llevigar (Level 41)
    Not only is it the first quest in Gavel, but it's also a really cool quest which entails you preventing the explosion of a giant city. If that doesn't make someone feel important and like they did something cool, I don't know what does.

    Out of My Mind (Level 63)
    I was debating between this and Memory Paranoia and mostly chose this one because it's closer level-wise to the previous one. I chose it for the same reasons as Deja Vu, it's a cool quest that gives you a new experience (although maybe a bit less dramatically this time, at this point you would have done some pretty cool and exceptional quests) and has a really good climax.

    Temple of Legends (Level 68)
    This and the previous milestone being so close together make up for the other ones being 20-ish levels apart. Same reasons as stated previously

    The Realm of Light (Level 74)
    "Ellphant what the heck are you thinking this quest stinks"
    Well, I feel obligated to put this on here if I'm putting AJB on here. Just sayin'. It unlocks a new area (although you do have to wear that stupid helmet) and shows you the "good" side of things.

    The Envoy Part 1 (Level 83)
    Same reasons as stated previously.

    A Journey Beyond (Level 100)
    It's A Journey Beyond, what more do I have to say? Besides, who doesn't want to do Aledar Cart?


    Uh so now feel free to pick apart everything I just said!
     
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    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Keep this, but I have to disagree on it being the first as Pirate's Trove is technically the first quest in Gavel (Level 39).

    It's a good quest, but honestly Order of the Grook is way better and a bit closer in to Heart of Lllevigar (Level 59).

    Please no. AJB is Silent Expanse (road to Dern) not Dern itself. Also, it is TERRIBLE and so are the other quests.
    You could replace it with Flight in Distress, which unlocks a very useful fast travel (Level 75).

    Also, a 90s quest might be in order, in which I would suggest Fantastic Voyage ('cause it's a cool quest) or better, One Thousand Metres Under; which, because of the new Void Islands content, this would be especially important.

    Other than that, great suggestions for milestone quests.
     
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  6. Ellphant

    Ellphant [they/them] stop and smell the flowers, won't you? HERO

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    Yes, I am aware, it's just the closest thing we have to Dern at the moment.
    I know I have an unpopular opinion, but I don't hate the RoL questline too much. I think it's... ok at best. Nothing great, but I hate some other quests a lot more.
    Ok, fair... but technically, you get the "you are now entering the Gavel Province" message further into Gavel then where you start the quest.
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    I think either of those would be really good candidates.
     
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    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Ok maybe it's not that bad but the Orphion thing really annoys me.

    Yes, but that's like saying AJB is a Detlas quest or that The Envoy Part I is a Selchar quest, etc., etc.
     
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    Ellphant [they/them] stop and smell the flowers, won't you? HERO

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    Ok, ok, fine, I let go of my argument
     
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    I haven't seen this addressed, but what about the Skill Point Pots (Probably would scale within mobs killed and stuff), if you could use any (Which is dumb because you're not supposed to get good weapons fast) skill pots when you start the playthrough, as you could LR/Mob Grind much easier, LR I wouldn't say it's not too hard with stuff like Mage (other classes its a bit harder), so you could do stuff like Seavale looting to get Ultramarine Set, in this case Seavale should be blocked off, but if you do quests, quest rewards can reward you greatly + Quests giving LE can lead to buying Merchant Items (Though I would just LR as a mage to get to places like Corkus and LR there), so i think merchant items shouldn't be allowed (Armor/Weapon merchants that is), Seavale blocked off, and I'm not so sure about chests, you can get into places like Nesaak at lvl 14 or smth and grab some chests to get normal gear to make you instantly stronger (If you're really good you can probably LR corkus with lvl 40 gear and high agi, maybe you don't need to be good because using a brown horse makes stuff 1000x easier)
     
  10. Ankarin

    Ankarin Wise Mystical Tree CHAMPION

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    @quadblast24 i shall do the work here for you
    Lets compile everything together, while reworking some suggestions

    The description

    The unleveled mode will be a new gamemode unlocked when you have finished the game ATLEAST ONCE

    Ok, how do i get skill points?
    There will be a new "Skill point merchant" in towns which lets you Sell weapons and get skill points depending on their reccomended level, please note this can only be done ONCE per each level.
    EXAMPLE- a level 5 weapon will grant 10 skill points, however afterwards, a level 6 weapon only grants 2 because you have gotten points up to level 5.

    Milestone quests (this will be changed)
    as to not let a player do AJB immediatly, there will be milestone quests (Credit to @Ellphant and @dr_carlos as this will be copy/pasted)

    Deja Vu (Level 14):
    I feel that some of the quests should reflect what you're going to unlock. With Deja Vu, you get yeeted back in time and in my opinion experience a quest different from what you have experienced so far. Up until this point, you have only done quests that teach you something (like Elemental Excercise) or are pretty basic at heart, like Infested Plants. Unleveled mode is going to be a new, unique experience. Some of the quests you do should demonstrate "unique".

    Cluck Cluck (level 23):
    Milestone quests don't HAVE to be long, this one is a short little quest, however will usually be your first experience on the ocean (Plus its a chicken, i mean...?)

    A sandy scandal (Level 32):
    This is probably your first quest running heavily around almuj, plus it gives a fun boss and an interesting story.

    The Heart of Llevigar (Level 41):
    Not only is it the first quest in Gavel, but it's also a really cool quest which entails you preventing the explosion of a giant city. If that doesn't make someone feel important and like they did something cool, I don't know what does.

    Shadow of the beast (Level 54):
    This quest is a fun little quest running the swamp, and it can let you discover you way around the swamp better.

    Out of My Mind (Level 63):
    I chose it for the same reasons as Deja Vu, it's a cool quest that gives you a new experience (although maybe a bit less dramatically this time, at this point you would have done some pretty cool and exceptional quests) and has a really good climax.

    Reincarnation (level 74):
    Yes yes i know, its a hard quest, but this is your BIG test on... "are you meant to be this far in the challenge?"

    The envoy Pt. 1 (level 83):
    it unlocks entrance to another new province, plus it is overall kinda fun.

    A thousand meters under (level 95):
    This is overall a REALLY fun quest, plus it adds a new area to explore, and a fast travel point inbetween!

    and finally,
    A journey beyond
    do i even have to explain this one?


    Some additional notes:
    Professions will work normally, however to move professions/weapons from crafting up above the level of a milestone quest, you will, of course, need to finish that quest.

    PVP will only work with other unleveled players, unless the player toggles it to play with normal hunted players.

    Items can only be traded into the skill point merchant if they are in your milestone quest range

    You will still need to meet skill point requirements for items of course.

    Dungeons no longer have a level requirement for unleveled challenge players, you just need to finish the quest and be in the milestone quest range

    This entire gamemode is centered around milestone quests, and that is all i can compile!
    have fun picking all of this out to every minor detail to critique me on it.
     
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    Bixlo Got drip like pablo HERO

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    This is a really neat idea! I like alot of features about it. 1. You should be required to have completed ALL quests before unlocking it. 2. It should be unlocked at lvl 105 simply as a reward for higher lvl players. Some other suggestions: It should be alot like a HIH run, where you can use bank, trade, and you only have one life. However It would be balanced by the fact that you can fight any mob without lvl capping, meaning the btter you are at not getting hit, the better you do. Somewhat like the game Dead Cells
     
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    Wasn't it supposed to have 20 level gaps? To give tzem more freedom. Forced 5 quest is imo enough

    So, I play hunted. What level am I?

    No. 2 levels of grind is too much. Especially at that level.
     
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  13. Ankarin

    Ankarin Wise Mystical Tree CHAMPION

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    If you play just hunted, you will play it normally-
    if you play hunted and unleveled, you play hunted with other unleveleds
    if you use /unlevelpvp, you can play unleveled hunted with normal hunted players.
     
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    But if you play hunted with normal players, what players it thinks you are? You can fight only players within ~5 lv range
     
  15. Ellphant

    Ellphant [they/them] stop and smell the flowers, won't you? HERO

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    So.....
    Is having the Realm of Light as a milestone still a no or...?
     
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    I guess not; it's probably even more important now, though Flight in Distress is a cool quest.
     
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    quadblast24 The Chronologer VIP

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    With the new update coming up, the creators will probably completely revamp this quest so it may get a lot better. It's not like this game mode would come out before then if ever.... So we'll have to see.
     
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    You can craft using Dernic materials as a Lv 1 combat assuming you have Lv 103+ in that crafting profession currently. Actually doing this would be hard without buying/another class to gather resources, but there was at least one case of this happening...

    +- 10 levels*
     
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    Thanks for correction
     
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    quadblast24 The Chronologer VIP

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    I updated the post. Tell me anything I should have added.
     
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