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Buffing Pure

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by legionare127534, Jul 10, 2020.

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Should Pure lose it's extra 3rd spell cost?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Pure's problem is not related to spell cost.

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  1. legionare127534

    legionare127534 Seeker of Walk Speed HERO

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    Pure is a fun wand to use due to the special ID "entropy" however it does little damage and is a poor choice for spamming meteors. I am fine with it's less than stellar damage, however its plus one spell cost on meteor is not needed. It only serves to slow high level game play with higher cost meteors and slightly negating the entropy bonus.
     
  2. Castti

    Castti Kookie

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    Pure is really really strong as is, the +1 meteor is easily countered and easily dealt with.

    Pure is one of the best mythic wands out there, and does not need a buff.
     
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  3. anonymousness

    anonymousness Well-Known Adventurer

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    Thing is, pure's dps is pretty much 3x its meteor damage, and some pure builds get 10-11k, even 14-15k with crafted items, which means that pure can potentially get more than 40k dps, more than any wand I've ever seen (granted, you need like 10 cps, but some mods might help with that, I don't know since I don't use any). If the +1 spell cost were removed, some gear that normally would be devoted to lowering the spell cost could instead be used to increase damage, and we would end up in a similar situation to that of nighthawk, where you can spam a damage spell and deal insane dps.
     
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    pure is probably one of the best, if not the best, designed mythics out there.

    a good pure build gets 1 mana 9-10k meteors with good mana sustain



    hey guys on a completely unrelated note i found this cool quote that i want to share with all of you

    "It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt."
     
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    Pyromanic Prism/Pyro#8570 on Discord CHAMPION

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    I vote Pure's problem is not related to spell cost
    Entropy is super OP and should be nerfed
     
  6. NagisaStreams

    NagisaStreams Sertified idiot QA

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    Building pure is simple, you should actually be building around raw spell cost. Meteor has a raw spell multiplier of x5

    This is pure's damage with 0 raw:
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    Pretty nasty by itself right? Well...
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    This is pure with only 500 raw spell. You can get much higher than this with items. You can also use slayer to bring down that meteor cost to 1, but double mythic is not something everyone has access to.

    Here is an example: https://wynndata.tk/s/b8t3c2
    NOTE: This build is absolute garbage, I only spent like 3 seconds slapping together raw spell on it.
     
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  7. anonymousness

    anonymousness Well-Known Adventurer

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    Also, here are a few builds that show that pure does NOT need a buff:

    Saya came up with this one, almost 10k meteors, replace sacramentalia with synapse for 8 mr and 11k meteors:
    https://www.wynndata.tk/s/zbuayx

    Crafted build with 14k meteors (I buffed it to 14.5k and 14 mr at one point, but I lost the link, and I did come up with this one):
    https://wynndata.tk/s/h0gc53
     
  8. cirogg

    cirogg Detlas AFK Gang HERO

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    Uh oh @Saya wya
     
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    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    I would give it 2 powder slots
     
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    hhhh

    i haven't actually done math or made i custom but i'm assuming that adding 2 thunder powders will increase meteor damage by 1k or so, which is effectively 3k meteor increase
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Tried it too.
    I agree, Pure shouldn't get powder slots
     
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    shit, sorry

    i couldn't tell if you were joking in original post because it's 4 am and hhhhhh no brain power
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    I wasn't
    You proved my suggestion was bad
     
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    omg i'm so sorry
    please do not take anything i say that is outside of noon-2pm seriously because i lose my massive iq after those hours.
     
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    7DaysAgo The Dancing Blade CHAMPION

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    Buff pure? Nerf pure? No dude. Leave pure as it is right now. The only thing you need to know when using a pure is cycle meteor extremely fast and if you can't do that, then the DPS is like ~15.
     
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    Melkor The dark enemy of the world

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    Pure is really well designed, but also one of the strongest weapons in the game. As other people have pointed out, it can match fatal in dps if you use it in the right build, and the only reason it's even remotely balanced at-level is because the +cost and lack of good mana regen options prevents you from using it to its full potential. Endgame, where that's less of a hindrance, you can do 2/3 the damage of other wands, but with three times the speed.
     
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