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Game Design Orange Cybel

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by DogeTennant, Jun 4, 2020.

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  1. DogeTennant

    DogeTennant Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Don't you love it, when you're fighting Cybel, Phase 1.. Phase 2.., Phase 3.. Phase 4.. Oh look! That pesky Orange Cybel got stuck in the barriers again! Well. I'll just wait for the Phase 4 to end and hope to kill him through the wall on Phase 5.. With arrow storms and bombs I manage to hit him and I hope I will reach the Token, but guess what!

    The stupid token just decides "aight imma head out" and yeets itself out of the arena (I literally saw it fly upwards, out of the arena completely)

    Alright, I'm frustrated, but I'm hoping, that I'll just do /class and hopefully I will beat him. But nah, Phase 2 is like 50x more agressive this time around, because it's RNG and he Dashes at me 10 times in 10 seconds, I try to use arrow shields and run away from him, but because he dashes so often I run out of sprint, knees weak, arms are heavy, vomit on my armor already, and then I run out of mana, arrow shield and just because he can, he dashes once more and 360 noscope onetaps me at 13k HP.

    So what's actually my suggestion?

    Change the arena, make it bigger (I know that the size of the arena is what makes Cybel extra hard, but diffculty < actually working arena (imo))
    Or redesign the barrier idk, make it so it's harder for the Cybel to get stuck there.

    Also, I definitely did not decide to make this post 5 minutes after exactly this happened to me, I swear I'm not bitter. trust me


    Thanks for coming.
     
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  2. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    This isn’t a problem specific to the Cybel; a lot of mobs recently have had issues with clipping through walls
     
  3. DogeTennant

    DogeTennant Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    CUC Boss is basically the same story, but I havent encountered any other bosses where it would happen frequently (for example LI Idol is basically in the same exact arena as Cybel, but he never glitched for me) and same for Death Metal (though it's true he glitched for me today aswell, but he managed to get out himself)
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    I’ve seen it happen to Gale and the Colossal Rat as well as a few non-boss mobs
     
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    Melkor The dark enemy of the world

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    I stopped running LI after this got to be too much of a problem. I have probably had more runs where I lost an token to barriers; that cruel, cruel mistress - than have not. Also if you have multiple people going through at once it tends to eat your tokens.
     
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    Shots Legendary Adventurer HERO

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    Like others have said, this is a problem with pretty much any mob currently. 1.19 for whatever reason made mobs no clip through walls a lot more often. The greatest offender of this bug currently is Geyser Pit, because its minions that are only supposed to be in the ground actively pop out of it and the fight becomes an RNG fest of whether or not they'll decide your time has come. I've had people at level 100 legitimately die to a level 85-90 boss altar because of how actively it breaks the boss altar entirely.

    But I digress. The greatest problem with Orange Cybel aside from being able to bug out is how inconsistent his fourth phase suicide strike is. Sometimes he does it on his supposed timer, other times he just sits there for 5 minutes. It's not like his suicide strike is exactly difficult to avoid because he has a linear path ai when he's in it (I don't know what it's called, but essentially he only moves in one direction and turns around only after he passes where you were by a few blocks), meaning you can honestly just circle around a pressure plate until he decides to use a spell. Regardless of that, though, a fight will almost always become more difficult as it continues unless it relies on an initial rush of enemies because it means you can die more. This applies to Cybel because it means it gives the cores more time to respawn, which forces you to reposition them AGAIN while dealing with Cybel flying around at the same time, which isn't difficult for Shaman and usually Archer but is obnoxious with the other three classes.

    If you're having trouble avoiding his suicide phases, chances are it's because of lag rather than his actual ai. With lag, mobs with linear ai may as well be using teleport.
     
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    DogeTennant Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    If LI isn't getting alteast a partial rework in 1.20 I'm gonna riot, we did cybel in a group of 3, the thing scammed me for token so I had to /class and do solo, so I used my potions but guess what, he didn't spawn even a minute after doing /class, so I had to class again with no pots and he one tapped me at phase 4 Rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    edit: also the thing always fucking respawns in Llevigar, do you think those scrolls to LI are free? reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
     
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