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Divide Pvp Damage And Regen/ls By 10

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Saya, May 3, 2020.

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  1. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    So hunted poison and oneshots are a problem yes
    (Well the entire concept of hunted is flawed but that's a completely different conversation)

    Solution: Just divide damage by 10.
    Issues: Regen and lifesteal

    Solution to above: Just divide regen and lifesteal while in combat by 10.


    !!! problem: solved!!!
    (sorry hunters but...)
    No balancing necessary, just removing onehits.


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    endorsed by @Linnyflower !!!!!!!
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2020
  2. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    But won't that make players built around health regen and lifesteal kinda obsolete in combat, I understand it's annoying but it's fair if everyone else has the opportunity to do it and only having it at 10% of its true power is a bit too much imo, plus poison's annoying too I've heard, but I don't do PvP much because it's boring.
     
  3. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    You do realize that dividing all sources of damage and recovery by 10 (in pvp only) doesn't change their relative effectiveness? So how would they become obsolete?
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    Whoops I didn't read this part "Solution: Just divide damage by 10." - Just saw the lifesteal and health regen
     
  5. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Oh, I'll make that part bigger then!
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    Ha it's chunky now lol, but much more prominent
     
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  7. Novalescent

    Novalescent Retired Wynncraft Systematic Recreation Developer HERO

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    This fixes by far the biggest problem with PvP right now, but at the same time only fixes half the problem with PvP.

    Classes still need a fair rebalancing just for the purpose of PvP. Bomb Arrows still have a large range, Aura can trap you, Spin Attack bursts can eliminate you, Mages will live forever, and Warriors can't die but at the same time can't deal damage.

    You also have the problem with Skill Points. Agility dodging everything, Defense builds will be unkillable. I don't know the fates of hypercrit builds but they might one shot builds not stacking agility and defense.

    Potions and consumables should also be addressed. Skill Point potions, crafted consumables, Mana potions, etc.

    I do recognize that I've already addressed PvP in the past and I may make it into a proper suggestion. I'm just laying down what needs to be fixed in order for PvP to really be viable and fun. Not trying to step on your toes. Damage reduction of any kind is absolutely mandatory for PvP and this fix alone would probably help make it more fun to play.
     
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    i support this change, but hunted is just such a fucking flawed base concept that there really is no great way to balance it except fully rebalancing all classes in pvp, with extra nerfs to certain other shit
     
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  9. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Hunted Mode was a mistake.
     
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    Linnyflower ironman btw Item Team HICH Master CHAMPION

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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    It's a good idea on paper because it makes PvP fair, but it'd then be difficult to actually hunt players like speed archers who would simply be able to run away under the proposed system.

    Edit: actually im 90% sure you're just gonna blame it on Hunted being a broken base concept so what's my opinion even worth tbh
     
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    problem with your assessment: hunted IS a broken base concept

    also, what's the point of speed archer other than... running? one-shots in pvp are fucking stupid, and thus, this concept helps make pvp closer to how it is supposed to be played. if speed archers are built to run, then this concept allows them to run
     
  13. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Yeah this suggestion is made assuming that real PvP balance will never happen
     
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