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Split Bob’s Reincarnation Into Four Different Phases

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by ThePurpleEmerald, Aug 14, 2019.

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  1. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    Bob, according to lore, managed to master all four classes, and one thing that I wondered while doing Reincarnation is why Bob only fights the player using a spear.

    I feel that Bob should have four different phases, each phase having Bob in a different class. Each phase Bob uses will also have the 3 spells each class has, e.g. the phase where Bob is a warrior class will have the spells that a warrior class player has.

    It will add more to the battle as the player has to face off against all the classes and also because it will fit to the story of Bob mastering all the classes.
     
  2. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    Add a poll and more detail about the stats and spells and such.
    Overall, in terms of concept, decent idea.
     
  3. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Warrior Spells:
    Bash, Charge, Uppercut, War Scream

    Mage Spells:
    Heal, Teleport, Meteor, Ice Snake

    Assassin Spells:
    Spin Attack, Vanish, Multihits, Smoke Bomb

    Archer Spells:
    Arrow Storm, Escape, Bomb Arrow, Arrow Shield


    Warrior Mob Spells:
    Charge

    Mage Mob Spells:
    Heal, Teleport, Meteor

    Assassin Mob Spells:
    Vanish, Multihits

    Archer Mob Spells:
    Arrow Storm


    We see the issue yet?
     
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  4. Jamer_theGamer

    Jamer_theGamer CraftedCitizen VIP+

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    I'm trying to understand the issue here: but I'm not seeing it. Does "Mob Spell" imply that those are the only spells Mobs can use? Is that some sort of limitation in the coding, that you can't add extra spells for mobs to use? Do the lack of non-mob spells somehow stops the idea of Bob having four stages? I feel like I'm missing something obvious, and it's sadly not self-explanatory for me.
    Could you possibly elaborate? Please forgive my lack of knowledge, haha. ^^"
     
  5. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    I don't see any issue with these, except perhaps vanish and escape.

    Also: "We see the issue yet?" - Comes across as very rude, and perhaps even a bit patronising; as if you're speaking to a small child. Very unneeded, especially for a mod, someone who is meant to lead by example
     
  6. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Yes; we only have a very, very small pool of mob spells, and I had been pushing to add more for a very long time under various devs to no avail. I have to assume that more mob spells won't be added for a while yet if ever, so that means that most of Bob's four forms would be heavily limited to certain spells and wouldn't really provide the variance in forms necessary to make such a battle engaging. I mean, Charge is the only Warrior-like mob spell we have, so the Warrior form would literally just be the battle as it is now, and if people are unsatisfied with it to the point of wanting it to change, well...

    In addition, the Vanish+Multihits combo is extremely common for boss mobs, so that would come off as generic more than "Wow, he's an Assassin now!" Or, at least, that's how it would feel to me.
    Was more intended to be pithy and jokey than anything else, sorry.
     
  7. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Throw Meteor on Warrior and Charge (nondamaging) on Archer.
     
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  8. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    To be honest, I think Bob should get a whole new AI for himself
    Considering he is essentially your 4 level 100 classes at once, I would imagine something like Giga Bowser from Super Smash Bros.
    Literally you but with super buffed spells, like the ones he uses in the cutscenes, and has the 4 phases of course, each one specific to a class
    I believe this would make for an amazing End-game boss in the Wynn Province, that doesn't change it would be really tough to develop, but I think the result would be worth it
    (End-game for Wynn of course, I know level 75 isn't end-game for Gavel)
     
  9. Jamer_theGamer

    Jamer_theGamer CraftedCitizen VIP+

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    That makes more sense: I'm just trying to think of ways to make the Bob fight more original, or engaging. I'm assuming that adding more phases or changing the fight at all would require dev work anyway, right? So maybe if that ever happens, I hope some mob spells can be added then.. haha.
    I think it's kinda hard to capture how an assassin, archer, mage or warrior player feel when presented as a high-level mob: because you want the fight to feel like you're battling against the top assassin player, top archer player, etc etc., right?

    I'm not exactly sure how the Bob fight works, but because it's Bob, it probably does deserve to be special in some way. :)


    And it's all good about the misjoke, don't stress on it, haha.
     
  10. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    At least it will make the Bob fight more complex rather than just Bob chasing you with a spear.
     
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  11. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    Just changing mob stats (move speed, attack damage, ranged vs burst vs melee) can totally change the feel of a fight too and add to the "4 classes" feel, don't discount that
     
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