Guilds Remove Rule 18 Or Enforce It +98

VLA, LxE, WNM, SDU was used as a sub

 

SDU is a sub never knew LOL also ironic considering Fox used SDU as a sub once because of Slash
VLA Is a legit guild they even have a thread.
WNM is a splinter of DDT since y'all hate 0x
LxE is a guild I owned and sold so what?

 

First off VLA is not a subguild, it is a splinter guild of ANO and we had to get permission from LoxiusMC to use it.

 

Why cant you just admit that both sides used sub guilds. You aren't fooling anyone with your blatant lies.

 

So xux is a sub now?? calling SDU VLA and WNM subs by your standards xux is a sub so is Oys so is Spr and so on

 

You forgot Hax, BLA, ANO and Fux
They are also all subs and always have been!

 

My last message in this thread :
The side that has the most people and the best cooperation should win a war.

 

Anyway this is getting out of hand lets go back to our main topic of rule 18.

 

I was speaking on behalf of my guild (IBT). We didn't use subguilds and this is objectively true.

 

To be honest, if you don't enforce this rule then what about the other rules like duping for example, if you don't enforce it people will do it

 

Ok maybe the person who said we dont use subs misspoke. Most guilds don't use subs TO FEED THEIR OWN CLAIMS, and that is what's objectively true. Our side does not break rule18 with subguilds, we use 1-2 subs per guild at post and as extra attack angles. The argument here is that certain megaguilds are using them for both, and the claimance usage is defying Rule18 as it is currently written on the books.

Nonetheless this shouldn't be a partisan issue, but people are getting personal now and it's driving and kind of objective agreeing even further apart. We're just asking for enforcement of rule18 or removal of it, so both sides will be equal in the use of subguilds and not loopholing around a rule with no official verdict. We also just want Salted to update the "official wynncraft and forum rules" with the correct iteration of rule18 or just abolish it altogether.

As for everyone posting here; please keep it civil! Otherwise the argument won't have merit. No calling guilds pussies, no calling anti-fox guilds ISIS, and I'm seeing so many incomplete assumptions and false facts about the guild game here that it's making my head spin, and most of all its derailing from the focus of this thread.

 

But if you, moderators, don't do anything against it, it means, you APPROVE it. So I feel we should start creating subguilds from now on.

 

The people voted unanimously to enforce or remove it. It’s safe to say whatever side you’re on, you agree with this philosophy

 

i thought you were referring to the entire opposing side against Fox, i apologize

 

Tbh i dont think u got the main point of most people here.
Some guilds abuse subguilds to gain the ability of multiple attacks which makes BOTH small and big guilds lose 100%.
So the issue is quite hard to remove as u need to proof the abuse which can be alot of work for mods if an alliance breaks.
So the most efficient solution would be to increase the attack volume based on the guild level or active members online because at some point a guild cant a guild cant defend anymore if there is nobody to attack/defend which would solve the whole thing about people abusing rules and others being salty about it.

 

Wth

 

SDU is a sub ahhhhh got em

 

IBT is also a sub. HAH you fell for it!!!

 

Also Ayn4rch there are so many things wrong or exaggerated with this post, I don't know where to even begin. I'm not gonna bea hypocrite and talk about any more partisan issues and derail the point of the thread further, but I will feel perfectly free to DM you and explain how this is so absurdly incorrect.

I feel like if any of the guilds on the other side of the aisle like BLA, DDT, ASh or Hax were using thse same self-sub feeding tactics, those other-aisle people would be rioting on the streets for enforcement on this, which is why i think it's so stupid that either side is bringing up partisan arguments. I feel like this thread is gonna spiral into the same kind of offtopic flaming merry-go-round like in that meme, and end up getting locked. I urge all posters and onlookers to please remain objective here.

 

Might it be because the moderators understand that sub guilds play a crucial role in the current guilds system and don't want to ruin the game? (my final post on this thread btw)