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Guilds Remove Rule 18 Or Enforce It +98

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by brokenmotor, Jul 7, 2019.

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Remove/Enforce Rule 18 instead of ignoring it

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  1. Ascended Kitten

    Ascended Kitten The Greatest HERO

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    Actually yea, most members and highest activity should equal biggest reward in my humble opinion.
     
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    FrozenGalaxy Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    But why can't you do it with one guild, instead of using a "glitch" for using your guild's whole potential?
     
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    AmbassadorArt Protesting bad changes since 2019 VIP+

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    But how will the smaller guilds ever rise up to claim the massive amount of land that the bigger guilds have if they never challenge? By your logic, you're saying that we shouldn't aim for the stars, and that if big guidls hold the entire map like in Federation that the rest of the guilds in the game should give give up on wanting to hold anything.

    Also yeah it would be foolish for Luxembourgto attack russia *alone* but like the lore of Cluster, "Perhaps one is weak. To be ignored. Perhaps two are not much better. But what of five? Ten? Twenty?..."
     
  4. Cloud Man

    Cloud Man Bruh HERO

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    If a single guild has the power to rule the entire map, the game is no longer fun. There’s absolutely no balance and guilds not allied with the big boys get complete shit
     
  5. Ascended Kitten

    Ascended Kitten The Greatest HERO

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    From experience I think we all know that you can always find people that want the ones in power removed, the only thing missing for that to succeed is persistence.
    The "big guilds" didn't just appear, they overthrew someone else to earn their place as well and while I agree it's not ideal since the 3 min cd + subs leads to increasing invincibility when approaching 0, I do think that it's the best we can do till a rework arrives.
     
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  6. FrozenGalaxy

    FrozenGalaxy Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    You're right. But I meant Luxembourg alone and that small guild also alone. If two/five/ten/twenty/... smaller guilds get together, they can also defeat huge enemies.
     
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    AmbassadorArt Protesting bad changes since 2019 VIP+

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    If the staff won't enforce this rule or acnowledge its merit now, there will be no rework of it later anyways, that's dreaming. I wasn't trying to invalidate the "big guilds" or their upbringing, rather i was challenging FrozenGalaxy's claims that smaller guilds shouldnt'; aim high. Creating guilds in the middle of raids just to hold down ur lands and not call actual full ally guilds to help is kind of a nubby strat, and abusive as the tactic unfairly benefits one side over the other. Literally the only reason that a certain guild didnt get defeated last night was the whipout of 6+ subguilds, and in my opinion that is not a sign of strength or reward, but rather a sign of weakness and desperation. I'm not trying to insult anybody, im insulting the tactic.

    Loof, if the rule aint gonna be enforced, remove it form the official wynncraft rules thread or update t to maximi's provision. Objectively speaking, The rules as stated on the official rules list are the ones that should be enforced, and it shouldnt take half a year to edit a damn forum post. Simple as that. Abolish the rule then, make it equal ground for everyone to use this crummy tactic if it's not enforcable.
     
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    Cloud Man Bruh HERO

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    It’s almost as if every single guild against tyranny in the entire game failed an attack today due to these terrible regulations. If nothing can be done, the game isn’t fun. If everyone feels powerless they lose interest, thus, Wynn becomes more empty. I’ve had many people leave my guild due to reasons like this, nothing can be done from our parts so what’s the point in trying. A team competitive game is meant fair to ok, while still giving teams with more power the ability to be on top, but not high enough. There needs to always be a way to take down the people on top, but without that, it’s almost impossible for people to play the game and have fun unless they join the people on the top. This creates a “recruitment vacuum”

    However, this isn’t the point on the thread. Subguilds are a way for pussy guilds to gain more than they need. It’s outdated, and someone needs to update it or else people are going to start going behind the mods’ back to break rules since they claim to not enforce them. This isn’t for me, this is for Wynn. Hell, I hate this server with a burning passion, but I play because my friends do. And I want them to have fun and play fair. Thanks for attending my TED Talk tm.
     
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    AmbassadorArt Protesting bad changes since 2019 VIP+

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    some guilds in the game use only 1 subguild or so for an extra angle of attack and nothing else, although tbh i think regulations need to be put in place anyways to prevent new guilds (specilaly subs) from being able to instantaneously mobilize. Fair use like this should be allowed.

    Not a fan of the use of the words "pussy guilds" either, a bit rude, but...

    ...everything else you said is absolutely true.
     
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    Cloud Man Bruh HERO

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    “a bit rude” is much different from the backlash I received earlier today but whatever. I’m fine with 1 sub, but 7-10 is just plain unfair.

    Edit: but it’s either all or nothing, so Wynn needs to choose
     
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    FrozenGalaxy Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    This is actually a good idea. There could be a cooldown or some regulations for new guilds to mobilize.
     
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    Cloud Man Bruh HERO

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    I’ve honestly given up. I’m done living in fear of this. If the mod team won’t update their rules, then the only way to win is to fight bullshit with more bullshit
     
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    Ayn4rch Travelled Adventurer HERO

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    Wait so if I follow the logic of most people here, we (Fox) shouldn't be able to defend ourselves from an attack, even if we have more people wanting to war then the 15 guilds attacking us combined ? Because wars don't go faster if you have 20 people in a war instead of 3.
    So we should just give up whenever 2 guilds attack us then ?
     
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    FrozenGalaxy Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Okay, so I'll say it slowly, because you don't understand. W e d i d n ' t u s e s u b g u i l d s .
     
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    DeathLucifer Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    My dude nobody told you to turn the whole map against you because of how greedy you guys got
    Nor does sending money members and giving territories to your own sub guilds (Ram Ranch [RMR]) and guilds you like. Fox legit acting like a USA of Wynn LOL
     
  16. NeonRider

    NeonRider Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    what?
     
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  17. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

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    this is objectivaly false
     
  18. DeathLucifer

    DeathLucifer Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Uhh okay than?? I'm just saying y'all are strong like USA but okay than.
     
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    cheeseries Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    We have a monarchy so we prefer to be Europe thanks
     
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    Pally Former Titans Valor [ANO] Owner HERO

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    Excuse us?
     
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