Website & Forums Shoutbox

At the time im typing this, this thread has made it to the second page of general suggestions. Its pretty dissapointing that thread is dying and not a single staff member has replied with a single reason for removing the shoutbox since the thread was first created, over two months ago. Its obvious theyve seen the thread, since it would be impossible not to because it has over 400 replies and hasnt left the first page until just recently. Im sure the removal of the shoutbox wouldve been taken better if any reasons were given, and the fact that not a single one has other than "use discord" shows how disconnected the staff is from the community. Like I said before, how the staff is acting is really just disappointing.

 

They have been acting like this for a LOOOOOONG time.

 

Ignore it and they’ll let it die

However keep it alive and wait for an opportunity

 

what opportunity?

 

not one now

 

whats this i smell could it be a mermer

 

bump

 

oh yes mememe

 

Honestly, I didn't want to accept this as true, but it's too big to ignore now. From the content team members that don't even appear on Wynncraft to the moderators that outright refuse to respond in any way with something they haven't been told to say, the staff members of Wynncraft are almost completely disconnected from the community. You'll only see them appearing on threads made by new members to lock them and tell the person to put it in a new section, or just notify they've moved it to a new section. They'll appear to tell you off for acting a certain way and give you warning points, but they don't actually interact with the community on a personal level nor appear to listen to it. The most we've seen is item locks and a better quest book after years of them being up, and I don't recall their creators getting much credit for the suggestion. This has been one of the most active and popular threads in the general suggestions section for a few months now, yet apart from a few copy-pasted "You should use discord, it's like the shoutbox but on discord" (which has already been debunked and proven false) messages, the moderators have outright ignored the thread; seemingly hoping it will die with the veterans so everyone either forgets the shoutbox or the new players that come to replace them never know it ever existed.

To the staff members that may or may not being lurking on this thread, or just passing by in a routine inspection by the orders of the admins:
I understand it can be difficult to be a figure of authority and someone's friend at the same time, because when you have to act as the figure of authority, it makes it seem as if you're attacking your friendship with the person rather than enforcing the rules of the community you're in. That's not what anyone on this thread is asking. All we want is a little more interaction, a reason why the shoutbox got removed and perhaps even why you don't think it should come back; with regards and acknowledgement of the arguments presented by various forum members and veterans here. This radio silence isn't helping anyone and is continuing to drive the disconnect between the higher-up staff and the majority playerbase Wynncraft has. It doesn't hurt to make yourself a little more known in the community, as people will begin to respect you a lot more if you respect them; rather than just only appearing to ban players or lock threads. I'm not saying you have to become the next featured wynncraftian, but I'm also not saying you can just not interact with the community at all outside of authoritative actions. It's not much to ask why the shoutbox got removed and why it isn't coming back. We know, discord is popuplar, but Discord is not the same as the shoutbox. That is why we want it back.

 

Shoutbox definitely is more accessible and obviously easier to use than Discord, needing only your forums account that you frequently use to send posts anyway, but Discord wants you to download the app, make an account, secure it, and get a link to a discord server just to be able to chat in a general channel and that imo is an ineffective way or directing your community to another platform. They shouldn't even have tried to, shoutbox was much better and much simpler than Discord, although it had many spammy messages about threads and posts or one channel, I've always seen it more talkative every day every minute, although the Wynn discord can get stuck at times every day. And there is also a ban-kick chance in the discord and once you do, you basically have little to no access or contact to online players. Very very unwise choice in my opinion, they really should add shoutbox back instead of throwing us ito the deep canyons of Discord and its complications that don't really present a big positive impact.

 

You know it just hit me. As I was browsing a thread and saw a message from a new mod, that was a copy-pasted response and a statment of "moving this thread" I realised something.

When you become a moderator, you are no longer a player of Wynncraft, you are no longer a person with a unique perspective, you become a bot. An "automated" messanger that acts on the devs will.

 

I was going to sa that too, once people get promoted it's as if they're now inactive, bot-like rule enforces. Because most of the mods I've seen, they have been less active in community stuff once they got promoted. And well having a CM was amazing, Pretzule was so active and could speak on behalf of other mods for us but well... Pretzule no more.

 

It's almost like being a big enough name and active enough in the community - to be promoted to Moderator - removes your ability to be a big name and active in the community.

Then again, I hardly see the content team getting a cut of the pay they helped produce by actually making the game the devs are profiting from.

 

Mods definitely don't have to become bots. Some do, but mostly that's just a consequence of increased responsibilites/not enough time to participate as much as they would like to.

 

Actually that's not true. I once talked with couple of mods or content team on a discord server (not official Wynncraft one, this point is really important), both perhaps, but the point is, that we were disscussing things that should be changed in wynncraft and after a few hours of sharing information and talking things out, they came back after a bit and told us that they are no longer allowed to disccuess the game with us on our server becouse Wynncraft created a seperate section for game feedback on the official server. Do mind that said section seems inactive and also blocks severe criticizm. So in all, the mods tried to be helpful but were told not to by the higher-ups.

 

Then maybe the players who have been kicked/banned from the discord server shouldn't have been shitheads and breaking the rules.

 

I've been a shithead on the forums and I'm still here. Being a shithead isn't demanding of permanent ban, and discord servers have a very little understanding of that.

 

Shoutbox is more open and free than Discord, that's for sure though.
And people kinda lose contact with many people once they get banned from the discord and they don't really have elsewhere to talk.

 

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@Moss heard you got muted what happened