Auction House Discussion

Truly an Economy Update >.>

 

Apparently not only mods

 

oof that was a big burner
Wait slated responded on a thread about discussion. Well, it was to correct a misconecption, but still, intresting to see that slated still keeps looking around the forum for information.
If we learned anything from this, it was:
1) Slated can burn bad
2) Zed needs to play the game more
3) Slated is a lurker

 

Nope, I just saw @Salted completely disregard @Nepeta Leijon and @Dr Zed 's arguements and attack a player for giving feedback. @Dr Zed has played the update, which is how he's able to give credible feedback. Lack of available ingredients is at least still a valid arguement.

 

The way ingredients are set up, it's possible to make some really insane combinations really early. I think at one point Major was showing off something like a 24% walk speed crafted ring at Lv 16? Of course, he knows where to look and find these, and not everyone else does, so try exploring around and searching for lots of rare mobs. You'll find more than you might expect.

Also, didn't mean any offense with the joke there. Wasn't meant to be a "who is right and who is wrong" but rather just a "oh, this is an applicable joke to the situation" thing. I'll try to be more careful in the future about it.

 

Wow, this thread has gotten really off-topic :P

 

I played the Beta for a total of about 10 hours on three separate classes. I'm level 11 on my archer, 13 on my warrior, and 38 on my assassin. I'm level 9 on both cooking and armoring, and level 3 in tailoring on my archer, and level 20 in weapon making on my warrior. I grinded for 2 hours just to reach mining level 25 and woodworking level 20 on my warrior, even though the Decrepit Sewers was broken and I couldn't get the higher level tools. That is a fact. I’ve been trying my hardest to give thoughtful and detailed feedback and talk with other players about their thoughts about the crafting system. I didn't go into this hating system. Otherwise I wouldn't have put the amount of time I did, spent $40 just to try it, and type more words than I wrote in school this whole semester during finals week.

And instead of just politely pointing out a simple fact I got wrong, you have to take it a step farther and insult me by saying I haven’t even tried the Beta, while still ignoring most of what I and Nepeta said. You had all this time to respond to mine and everyone else's criticism's about the crafting system in the Beta Feedback, but you haven't addressed a single iota about the criticisms I and others posted in the Beta Feedback.

You know I didn’t really expect this from an owner of all people. It was one thing that @Alexdacube was calling us lazy for voicing criticism of the crafting system. It's a whole other thing when it comes from the owner. The only person on the CT that took the time to fully address the criticism in a polite and constructive way is @ConquistadorBob, which I thank him for that.

So you know what? The only thing that was a waste of time was playing the Beta and giving feedback just to get insulted. I'm done giving feedback if this is what you're just going to do. I'm done trying to understand others if they're just going to insult me and ignore most of what I have to say.

I'm done!

 

Lazy criticism by suggesting that we buff crafted items even further (hmmm lets see even more op potions than the ones shown), remove crafting levels and generally bashing on the update. I'm sorry you got called out hard on this thread, don't dig yourself a deeper hole by trying to call me out. You and your "band" are constantly replying and making threads with the exact same shit without providing realistic fixes to your "supposed issues" just stop...

 

I spent so much time talking to other players and writing in addition to playing the game. I made an entire thread with my criticisms, https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/the-crafting-gathering-system.238702/. How is that lazy criticism then?

 

Yikes. I can see this thread slowly devolving toward a lock.

 

That is the worst defense you could have come up with. It is still an attack. What @Dr Zed was

He isn't attacking someone, he's criticizing the system for being unbalanced and worse than the potions that are already in the game.

So yes, your statement is an attack. Just because you think memes make everything funny, doesn't mean it's true, or that you can't use them offensively.

That's understandable, but attacking players that try to provide in-depth analysis and potential solutions is still wrong. If you're willing to waste time insulting people who want to help, then why bother hosting a Beta in the first place. That's directly attacking the people trying to make a difference. It's one thing to not respond because you're busy. It's another to take time away from making the update just to insult a player. It's shameful. The other mods and CT are actually discussing with the players, but you seem to have not been informed: players have opinions.

 

What if his solutions are terrible ideas ???

 

That doesn't negate the fact that he can have his own opinions on what will improve the update. As I said

 

Okay guys, let's all calm down. This thread has gone very off-topic, it was meant to be a discussion about whether the secret feature is an auction house or not, not to discuss the 1.18 update. You can discuss the update in the hero beta feedback section, but please keep it friendly. There's no need for name-calling, no need to make fun of people, and no need to get angry at each other. This is a game after all, it's meant to be fun! If you need something to help you relax, you should watch this cat transcend to godhood.

Thanks for understanding.

 

Okay, let's cool everything down a bit:

You probably don't hear this much, but I really appreciate what you've contributed to the discussion. I've been really interested in the update, and you've been nothing but helpful and kind to me when answering my dumb questions. I also think that the conclusions you came to about the new stuff is fair, especially since you haven't had the chance to max out any stats yet.

That being said, I do think salted has a point. As an outsider, that last comment from him looked like a joke, but idk, could just be me. It was cool for him to show off what potion crafting can lead too though (Even if I disagree with the circumstances of how he did it).

Anyways, please don't take it too personally. I'm sure the devs are under a lot of stress right now, and even constructive criticism could be seen by them as attacks on their work. It isn't anybody fault, just the nature of the situation.

Once again, thanks for all the work you've put in to documenting the beta!

I get what you're saying, but at some point it's just adding grease to a bonfire. I'm not familiar with what you do (apart from being a builder) but I'm sure you've worked really hard on the update and it sucks to see people criticize a project you've worked on. I don't disagree with you, but I don't think you communicated your criticisms in a fair way. I don't want to make this an attack on you though, cause I'm sure you've had plenty of shit thrown your way, I just wanted to point out that what you said could be seen as an attack even if you didn't really mean to make it out to be that way. Thanks for understanding, and more importantly all the hard work you've put in!

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Damm, I started typing 20 min ago. Sorry for being redundant :(
Great link btw :D

 

Thank you so much :D
I was waiting this forevery Yessss.

 

I'm for jokes and all, but this isn't really the way to do it. Sure, if you quoted the same post it was said in, it would be understandable, but there's no indication it wasn't honest. Many people use jokes to convey something dead serious and this definitely seemed like it. Also trying to create copypastas is just a bad idea and I doubt anyone would wanna copy-paste this since there's nothing really meme-worthy about it.