Classes: General Class Additions

- I've seen a few comments say "Changing all the Lore is too hard" because ANY class addition would involve changing bob's quest, writing 5 instead of 4 everywhere, basically cancerous tidy work, but I suggest that we make the lore more tangible...

- By that, I mean leave all the lore how it is, but ADD random NPC's that talk or maybe even Quests that talk about the new class RECENTLY.

- Let's say (a popular one I saw) Like the Shaman gets added, and instead of changing all the quests, we add new quests that talk about the class a little, saying "these people from Dern came and..." etc, so you wouldn't have to even touch the Wynn history.

- Having the history and lore is amazing and I love it, but it's all "a long time ago", which is understandable because it's LORE, not current events, but what if the new classes came, let's say, 100 years ago or something like that? Having it happen much closer to "now" makes it infinitely easier to implement than editing all the lore of the past, and also makes the history feel closer to home, to give the player a sense of "I'M part of the history!"
I'm not too familiar with Wynn's lore, I've looked up nothing to avoid spoilers and have searched for as many discoveries as I could on my own, so I'm under the impression that the main history takes place 1000+ years ago.

- Personally, I would really love to see a wave of classes (like 2 or 3 max, I really don't wanna put a bunch of work for the mods) arrive recently, maybe 1 from each province.

- Wynn and Gavel could be the home of the 4 main classes. A 5th class (my own suggestion, probably will never come) could arrive from Corkus, a mechanical defense bot who's been given free will by accident (?) and they could use primitive and clunky guns like the real world Blunderbuss, but golden with a bunch of levers or gears all over it. If the Shaman class ever gets added, which I hope it does, it would be fitting to say it came from a forest/earth type of province no?

- Remember to leave CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, being a jerk and saying "no you're dumb" doesn't help anyone and doesn't progress the suggestion. If you don't know how to leave constructive criticism, here's the link.

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/giving-feedback.166965/

 

One of the things they often have to change to add new classes is the weapons that Reincarnation gives you. It would be unfair if the new class doesn’t get a Bob’s Mythic just because it’s new.

 

Farmer class: Bob's Mythic Pitchfork
Adventurer/Hero class: Bob's Mythic Sword
Soldier class: Bob's Mythic Sniper Rifle
I'm running out of ideas help pls

In case you couldn't tell this is a joke, I'm trying to give examples how bad new classes would be, basically all of them are just ripoffs of the current classes

 

If you put it that way Assassin is a rip off of the warrior class.

 

i mean the only similarity is that they use melee weapons.. that's not really a ripoff though is it

 

CHEF class: Bob's Mythic Eggbeater
Athlete class: Bob's Mythic Running Shoes

this are ctually hard to thik off...

 

Uh
No offense
but yes while the lore would be an issue and this would be a decent way to fix it the actual main reason it'd be so hard to add a new class is because of new items for the class.
It takes time to create and properly balance an item. If we now take into account that we'll need roughly 300 to 500 items to accompany the new class, you see how ridiculously long that would take. While possible, yes, the ct probably doesn't have the time to try and do that, hence the reason a 5th class has not been added in so long probably.

 

Miner class: Bobs mythic pickaxe
Bank class: Bobs mythic bills
Food class: Bobs mythic cookies
Weeb class: Bobs mythic jojo reference
Nature class: Bobs mythic poison ivy

 

@AmitTheProBro we have another one

 

get out

 

Tbh yea it would be but I still think the players we have would appreciate the diversity, no matter how long it takes.

 

Honestly I find 4 classed to be diverse enough. While many people say it would add more unique play styles it really doesn't. Combat in wynn is gonna be mostly boring do to the fact its based in mc and theres only so much they can do. After 1 class you lose that shine of all the quests and combat. The mystery is gone and it just feels like the same thing with a new shade of paint.

 

OBJECTION!
Lore-wise, the player is a Fruman soldier that emigrates to Wynn. Should you attempt to make the argument that the class moved from Dern to Fruma, keep in mind Fruma doesn't even allow people from Wynn to enter. Why would they allow a mysterious magically-gifted person from a dark and evil land to join their army? Keep in mind that the lore states that those in Fruma may not know magic, save for Wynn-bound soldiers and royalty.

OBJECTION!
In terms of lore, this would make no difference; our current classes have barely any lore. Additionally, Bob was canonically born 146 years ago (and has been missing for only 16 years). This means that if such a class came into Wynn (disregarding the first objection), Bob would definitely know of this new class and would train to be adept in their skills. Effectively, this renders your argument that the class should be recent moot.

OBJECTION!
AND SPOILERS!
The main history takes place 114-146 years ago.

OBJECTION!
This is the work of the CT, not the mods.

OBJECTION!
Except for Fruma (of which all four classes are already from), most of the dialogue and lore would need to be changed to reflect the following:
Gavel isn't possible because the player is human
Corkus isn't possible because the player is Fruman
Dern isn't possible because the player is Fruman
The Realm of Light isn't possible because the player is human
Wynn isn't possible because the player is Fruman

OBJECTION!
Technically, Fruma is their home.

OBJECTION!
In terms of Corkus, the robots technically have free will (or at least the hive mind); defense bots are constructed to eliminate the greatest threat to society. The greatest threat to society is humans, as reasoned by the Antikythera Supercomputer. Even if this robot is the exception, how will it convince the Wynn-Fruma army of such?

OBJECTION!
I must reiterate again: any classes that do not come from Fruma make no sense lore-wise and would require heavy revisions to the lore. Whether they are chronologically recent or not does not matter.

Constructive enough for you?

 

im almost dissapointed that necromancer wasnt mentioned

 

Not at all. Besides being cheeky with the OBJECTION eveytime you're not offering a solution or idea, just explaining a more complicated "no"

I appreciate your comments though. Just keep in mind I'm being optimistic, I don't have a full grasp of the more because I've avoided spoiling it for myself, I'm tossing ideas out so that other people can reply and hopefully come up with some stuff.

Wynn will inevitably grow. Wynn IS growing, and as long as there is an active and paying community it will continue to do so, and I see the updates in the future not necessarily becoming larger scale, but I do believe the mod team will eventually look for other options besides quests + map expansion every single time they want to add to the game. (Hence the mythics being added, same with the Discoveries and Revamped Dungeons)

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Is necromancer something that's talked about often?

 

Prepare the nuclear weapons. We shall launch a third attack.

 

its the housing of class suggestions, im too lazy to link you to then all but im sure some1 will do it

 

content team*
sorry just want to correct you as the mod team and content team are two very different things so no one gets confused

 

In case you're unable to see it, the solution is very clearly implied.
First of all, conceding that classes must come from Fruma is the only way that the tutorial area makes sense.
Secondly, my response, despite having a lack of suggestions is technically constructive. I'm pointing out many of the false assumptions that your post has made, and thus you can acknowledge and correct them. A lack of such is not necessarily nonconstructive; your post was lacking in research, so why should I do the research for you?
Additionally, what's wrong with saying "objection"?

To summarize: The reason I didn't give any suggestions for improvements is simply because the majority of your points rely on false assumptions or are contradictory to the lore. The only way to rectify those issues is to either rewrite the suggestion entirely (as your premises are changed) or to remove the details altogether (but you would just accuse me of being "unhelpful" since it would require the removal of something you wrote).

 

Also, I just read a response you gave in a different thread (https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/unique-textures-for-mythic-weapons.231743/). Judging from your response on that thread, you implied that the equivalent of "no" is acceptable should it be explained enough. Is that not what my post did in entirety? After all...

The following was in the given thread:

Although my thread was not in support of your suggestion, that does not mean it has no meaning. It simply demonstrates that I do not agree and I have reasoning to support it. The response had and explanation, thus it is not a mere "no" - it is a meaningful "no".