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World Inflation

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Muchwag, Aug 4, 2018.

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Should Some of these if not all be added?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    24 vote(s)
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  1. Muchwag

    Muchwag Don’t call me Poliwhirl! VIP+

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    So As you all know Wynn's economy is inflating and eventually (not that soon) Your money might become worthless from inflation (Inflation is when more money its coming in then out so the money is worth less because there is so much), so like in any economy you can't stop inflation fully because for that you would have to have every player spend as much money as their making which is not going to happen. This leaves us with one option, to slow inflation, I have come up with a couple of ways to do this.

    But First what aspect in wynn is putting the most money into wynn and what is taking the most money out, the other thing we need to realize is that we cant make one thing cost to much money or give too little money so we have to cut money from a variety different things. We also can't do as some suggestions said "Cap players at 3stx of LE" or "make money worth 10 times less" because that just makes players angry and doesnt really help the problem, just sets it back. What I have come up are 3 things that make players the most money, #1 Quests which will make you over a stack of LE (I don't know exact numbers) #2 Emerald Drops (Grinding Mobs, boss alters, loot running, etc) and Item Buyers. And the Main ways money is sucked out is #1 Item Identifiers (Re-Rolling mythics mainly) and #2 Guilds (cough @Tntdestroyd with his 28 stx in BCr Cough Cough)

    Okay, now that we have Identified the problem and solution what we can do is first decrease money gained from quests but not too much So obviously the low level quests don' t matter because 2eb is nothing compared to like 8le
    Royal Trials 6le -> 5.5le
    1k Meters Under 5le -> 4le
    Fantastic Voyage 1.5le -> 1.25le
    Envoy Part 2 4le -> 3.5le
    Hidden City and Mixed Feeling 3le -> 2.5le
    cowfusion 2.5 -> 2le
    Canary Calls ->2le
    Envoy Part 1 -> 2le
    Marauders Dues -> 2.5
    Aldoreli's Secret part 2 -> 2le
    Eye of the Storm -> 1le
    Wynn Site D -> 5le

    I could Do more but im lazy lmao

    The Next thing do so is increase Item Identifier prices by like 10% so that when you would reroll a mythic or a legendary you are paying that extra 5eb or that extra 10le so that way more money is being sucked out of the game. The Next way is to decrease mob emerald drops, I belive (correct me if im wrong) but your average lvl 95-100 mob drops like 2-8 emeralds, what it should be is more like 1-3 emeralds so people can't just grind full inventories of emeralds and make 32eb in 10 minutes, also with loot chests from a t3 instead of getting 128 emeralds make it MUCH less like 20 emeralds because 1 people don't usually take them but if they are going to make them not be able to get rich off of it. The Next thing is make item buyers give again, 10% less emeralds so when people are selling all their gear they make slightly less money decreasing the rate of inflation on wynn. Guilds are fine they suck enough money out as it is also it would be a highly noticeable change that would make people angry.

    Basically if we add a bunch of little changes to the amount of money coming in and out it can make a large change in the rate of inflation, thanks pls vote on Poll and @Theeef I did it
     
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  2. blankman

    blankman Wynncraft Boomer VIP+

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    Wait, people actually keep emerald drops when grinding?

    Also, as you said about other suggestions, this will only slow inflation down. And not by much.
     
  3. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    This idea isn't doing much to stop inflation
    just a very small slowdown
    You see, a lot of money is spent circulating the market. Not much is actually spent identifying the items, as once it has good stats, theres no need for it to be reidentified
    also as stated earlier, it's too minor to make an impact and will just aggravate players that they have to spend more to identify and lose a small amount of emeralds
     
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  4. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    Wouldn’t stop inflation.


    Let’s assume we have player A and player B.
    Player A has x liquified emeralds.
    Player B has x stacks of le.

    Assume player A makes 5 le every day from trading, lootruns, ect.
    Assume player B makes 10 le every day from trading, trading mythics and lootruns (better lr gear)
    Player A now makes less money and uses more money, as well as B.
    Let’s assume the amount lost every day is 1 le.
    Played A now makes 4 le, B now 9.

    While before this suggestion the amount of emeralds gained was (b)2/1 (A) afterwards it’s (b) 2.25/1 (A)

    Very basic stuff that probably ignored stuff, but my point stands.

    Doing this would only make it HARDER for the low-le players to catch up to the rich bois.

    ”Aah but lets assume it takes 2 le from the rich boi as thats 2/1”
    So what?
    Then the suggestion does nothing, excpect the poor people gain less money and are less likely to ever catch up.


    -1

    The problem isn’t inflation. It’s new people being unable to join the ”high market” and people mistake it for inflation.
     
  5. mouldy

    mouldy heheheha

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    nobody fucking cares about the economy and nobody should
    just fucking enjoy yourself and stop worrying
     
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  6. Muchwag

    Muchwag Don’t call me Poliwhirl! VIP+

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    I literally said you can’t atop inflation just slow it down
     
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  7. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    How can you enjoy yourself if you literally have to do the impossible and find a mythic yourself and can't buy anything because the little LE you have are worth nothing?
     
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  8. mouldy

    mouldy heheheha

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    everyone will eventually find one, you just need to put a shit fucking ton of effort and commitment to finding one, i.e. loot running 3 times a day, getting good lb armour, hell i’m not even level 300 yet and I’ve already found my first mythic. you just gotta put devotion into it.
     
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  9. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    Look at my banner and say that again.
    https://wynncraft.com/stats/player/Kaname_Chan
     
  10. mouldy

    mouldy heheheha

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    alright fuck me i feel bad
    youll eventually get there tho
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    it’s just a matter of time, some people get their first mythic earlier, some get it later.
     
  11. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    Well, I am partially lying. I found 4 mythics.
    2 Gmas, 1 alka, 1 strati.

    I now have an Az and 9 LE. That's due to some trading, LEification and inflation. I might have messed up a bit, but that won't explain 30 stacks LE disappearing into nothing more than a bow that can't even power a toaster and 9 bottles of Whiskey.
    :)
    And thats where inflation is bad. It wont stop. Even if you find a mythic, my example goes to show that theoretically, and practically, you lose LE over time. And that can't be.
     
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  12. A Human

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    These will only slow down inflation a little, I think it would be better to back the currency with something to prevent prices from rising above that price. For example, making it so you can always buy an unided level 96-100 legendary from a merchant for 3Le(around that) so prices won’t be able to rise too far beyond that.
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    The losing emeralds over time is because if you don’t have a forums shop, you have no real flow of income
     
  13. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    Are you trying to explain to me how economy works? Nice try, but you forgot to take into account: If you have no flow of outcome, and no flow of income, on a tax-free server, you should end up with +-0 if you do nothing :)

    Mythics that are bought by ppl are increasing in price due to inflation, while mythics like pure, which is not really interesting, stay the same or just increase slightly. Back in my days, a Freedom was worth 4-5 stacks if it was a good one. Not 10-12. If you sold your Freedom then, and received 5 stacks, you have now lost, because the same Freedom goes for double the Stacks of LE nowadays, so you couldn't even buy it back even if it's literally the same.
     
  14. mouldy

    mouldy heheheha

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    so buying a mythic and keeping it may yield profit? guess that’s true, even if at one time your warp goes down to 1 emerald per, you can just wait and eventually the price will rise. i guess it’s like bitcoin, you buy now, you either profit or lose in the future.
     
  15. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    That has always been the deal with wynncraft. The item in question might get a buff. Or a nerf. But keep in mind: Even if it went from like 5 stacks to 10 stacks, it doesnt mean its value increased by that much. But since more LE are on the market, people tend to pay more.
     
  16. A Human

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    However you do have a flow of outcome. No matter what, if you play the game, you will spend emeralds over time on tp scrolls, items, identifying, etc. A normal player uses a lot of emeralds over time. Or maybe I’m just bad at saving emeralds and not using them all.
     
  17. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    No offense, but you must be doing something horribly wrong. If you play the game, you get so many LE through quests and lootruns, you can cover those costs easily. I made 3 LE in the last 3 days just by lootrunning, IDing and selling the legendaries I found to the Item Buyer.
     
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  18. Theeef

    Theeef Owner of The Crossroads CHAMPION

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    Why was I @'d? Either way, inflation is bad, I doubt anything we ever suggest (whether good or bad) will ever be added, much less actually solve the problem. Good effort though.
     
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  19. A Human

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    Of course I lootrun, I mean that without a flow of income you will certainly lose money off of minor purchases adding up. I can usually sell good items from lootruns, but I get awful IDs all the time so I personally lose emeralds fast
     
  20. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    How can you lose 10 stacks of LE through minor purchases? If it really is minor purchases, like you say, you should be able to cover those by selling legendaries and questing. Doing all Quests will reward you with like a stack of LE or so.
     
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