World My Suggestion Essay (you Might Want To Read)

I have been playing a lot of ESO lately (Elder Scrolls Online) and was thinking about the similarities between wynncraft and ESO because they are both the same type game. Then I noticed some thing that would make wynncraft better that are in ESO. WARNING!!! I am going to edit this post a lot so your comments might not make any since 6 hours after you post them.

#1. No lvl specific quests. In ESO you can do any quest as at any lvl, sometimes you just have to complete the quests that lead up to that quest, that would be awesome if you could add something like that to wynncraft so that you don't have to spend 2 days grinding to lvl up to do the next quest, just do any quest but they might be to hard to do so you might have to lvl up anyway.

#2. Crafting. In ESO you can find materials across the world used for blacksmithing, jewelry crafting, potion making etc... If you added these types of materials across the map so people could make their own weapons and armor and stuff the market would expand greatly. To make sure people didn't get loaded on materials make a cool down on them like you had with relics (rip), and either it require more of the material to make it better/higher lvl or just ad different materials for higher lvl things. This would mean you would have to place crafting stations for these things across the map.

#3. More skills. In ESO there are different skills for different weapons like 2 handed weapons, dual weild, 1 hand and shield (to add these thing you would finally have to update to 1.9 for the left hand slot, more on suggestion 5). There are also the skills for the crafting things. You have to get the skill up for that specific thing you want to craft then spend a skill point to unlock that certain thing, for instance, blacksmithing skill is at 2 so you can craft lvl 20 things now, then you reach lvl 30 and you got your blacksmithing skill up to 3, you will be able to craft lvl 30 things once you spend a skill point on blacksmithing to fully unlock it.

#4. The map. I don't expect this to be fully possible but the map in ESO is HUGE! if you would ever be able to make a map like that, wynncraft would become 30x better.

#5 UPDATE!!!!. this is just a normal suggestion to wynncraft unlike the rest of these. wynncraft is still in 1.8. I don't know why, there might be a reason. 1.13 just came out, if you guys updated wynncraft to be full 1.13, no more 1.12.2 and bellow, you could do SO MUCH MORE! All the new things since 1.8, like I said in suggestion 3, 2 hands! All the new mobs that you could use, all the blocks, a whole knew world of possibilities if you just accepted that 1.8 is old and you need to update. Once again, there might be a reason you are still in 1.8, I'm not a game maker so I don't know how many of these things are possible.

That is all for now, once again, some of your comments might become obsolete as I will be changing this post frequently.

 

#1. New players might not understand that some quests are designed with higher levels in mind, and start doing the ‘cool’ sounding quests first. That would lead to them attempting stuff like Bob’s Lost Soul at a low level, and possibly quitting the game because ‘the quests are too hard’. Maybe add a recommended level for the quests?

#2. Crafting would be pretty cool, but how would it work? Would people be able to make any combination of ids for items, or only be able to craft limited selections of items that are already designed

#3. Sounds pretty good! But would items have those skills as requirements now? I think it would work better if a ‘mastery’ point was received every 5 levels, and you could use those to get all the special skills, which are separate from normal skills.

#4. Making a map the size of ESO would take a very long time. I do hope they keep expanding the map though.

#5. Updating the server requires updating to the new combat mechanics.the new mechanics for some reason are really disliked by servers and I think break a ton of stuff if updated.

 

teso uses a deleveled system.. meaning you will be at the same power level throughout the game till level 50.. then you will recieve smallish buffs until 160cp and past that is only when your character actually gets stronger. Wynn doesnt have a deleveled system and i really dont see how we could introduce one and because of that i dont think it would make any sense to have quests without level reqs because the zones will still have the same levels they have atm.

Yeah i agree on that one having new spells and spell trees would be a really cool addition for wynn and is something that should be done but thats something thats up to saltest :(

Firstly... the entire universe that eso is set in already existed before they even started planning the game and thus it was a LOT easier for them to create this kind of huge map space since the lore for it already existed.
Secondly.. you know sure yeah more content is very cool but it also takes a lot of time. Its not like we dont plan on adding more map space in the future.. it just takes time to be made.

Some normie hecks out there seem to prefer 1.8 cus they are lazy ( @Pokextreme less eating more version switching ok? ;3)

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we arent effected by new combat mechanics. If we dropped 1.8 there wouldnt be a single difference to what its like currently

 

Everyone probably wants a bigger world. I have no doubt that the Content Team is putting in a huge amount of effort to do so already. But the staff can't just press a button that causes more content and land to appear however. Be patient, we should be getting some new world content in Road to Dern "soon".

This has been suggested before to mixed reception. But Salted has turned the idea down in the past, for reasons such as massive level jumps (Complete a level 98 quest at level 1 and you're boosted to level 70). Not to mention that it would be hard for your character to get gear with said level spikes. Yes, quests like Reincarnation and Royal Trials would be hard to beat at level 5 but some of them are easy to cheese by getting boss tokens and quest items on a different, high-level class.

People above already covered #5, and I personally think #2 and #3 are interesting ideas, if you developed those more I'd be interested to see what you came up with!

 

iirc in eso they give relative xp values and not static ones so depending on what level you are you get more or less. So that wouldnt be the issue if we were able to put the system in place. The issue is just that it doesnt make sense to have deleveled quests but a leveled game system.

 

First, did you quote your own thread and say the ideas were good?

Second, the ‘deleveled’ system you speak of would require all of Wynn to be entirely redesigned. It’s essentially completely overhauling how the game works.

 

exactly.. which is why i am basically saying that that wouldnt work ._.

 

Oh wait I thought that was @DJTHEDIAMONDPIG writing that.

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An answer to #1. recommended lvl was exactly what I was thinking, #2 not any combination, I was just thinking about things like that and in ESO there are trait items used to give things certain traits but each item you craft can only have one trait, for instance you can use the trait stone to give you exp bonus but you cant add the trait to give you more dmg too, #3 no, still the same intel and dex kind of ones but increasing those skills could make certain things increase like fire defense or loot bonus, #4 + #5 I'm not a game maker so I have no idea on any of that stuff, this is all a suggestion

 

I dont think we should be implementing eso item system in wynn.. its a lot less creative and the thing is... the way traits work in eso make a lot of sense but in wynn it would work just like another ID so i dont really see what the point of having them (also just like in eso a quick meta for them will be established.. namely divine trait which would take away the point of it). I am not against crafting in wynn but if its done imo they should just work the way the wynn item system works atm and not different in any way (and i think the item system is the place in gameplay where aside from adding new ids the least has to be done). Id much rather have JP focus on something like actually making combat more skillbased and fun instead of adding new things to an item system that is already quite nice (new ids would be cool though)

 

To sum my entire post up (the tl:dr): Sure, let's copy other games mechanics and just completely change a pre-existing system to make it similar to another game

#1: I could just get my level 100 carry a level 4 through the fortuneteller, a quest that gives 3.5 million exp
yeah no
The point of levels is to prevent earlier players to access higher leveled content early on with no effort, such as gear and high leveled quests
There's no point in removing a level minimum if you're just gonna have to level up anyway to get to the quests skill level

#2: Crafting would just feel as a quick way to get high leveled gear
if it's like getting items normally, there's no point once again, as you can just grind for the gear

#3:""Sure, let's change one of our concepts entirely so it can be similar to ESO's system""
im not trying to be mean, but you shouldn't suggest something in wynn if it's already something established in another game
neither company would like that
If you want something changed in wynn drastically with ideas that are just copying another game, then just play the game your getting your "suggestions" from

#4: It's not that easy
It took 2 years for gavel, and that's just that part of the map

You're essentially suggesting to copy ESO's map.
Wynncraft is already very far in development, and just restarting it all just so it can be like ESO's isn't as simple as you think.

If you really want a minecraft ESO's, either create you're own version, or just play ESO

#5: ok i guess
but like this could just be it's own suggestion


Anyway, you can't just come on to a server and ask it to change entirely to mimic another game
As you stated in your post, you already play ESO, so just asking a minecraft server that has established gameplay to copy another game is pointless, because once again, they would be too similar to count as seperate games
People come on Wynn to play Wynn, not Elder Scrolls Online
Copying game concepts won't make anyone happy
You would just keep playing ESO instead of wynn because you already have progress in ESO

Also you're title makes me mad
You include nothing telling about you're suggestion, just an essay and a clickbait (you might want to read)
like a (YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED)

Just because you are not a game developer and it's just a suggestion doesn't mean it can be out of the range of what the developers and ct can handle
That's like suggesting a law to the president asking to make everyone must pay their taxes 6 minutes after tax day starts

That's too much to handle
Suggestions are taken like something that could be added to the game, even if they are not
They aren't a place to say something you think would make the game better even if it isn't possible
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/how-to-suggest.174609/
i'd suggest read through this before posting more suggestions, because it really gives help toward making suggestions
#2 on the list:
Is it possible? (ask yourself if what you are suggesting is actually possible in Wynncraft and can be done)

Thats all i have to say
please don't just suggest a thing that isn't possible just so it can copy again

- Locky

add a poll so we can collectively say no

 

But then they can’t use any of the new mobs or mechanics.

 

tbf they were just suggesting a few features of eso... not really eso itself lol. Just like with every tes game one of the primary focuses of eso is lore which... is very different (and ofc much richer) than wynn lore.

That depends on the balance of the crafting .-.

well how would he know what our devs can handle and what not? Jp surprised me so many times by now with what he can theoretically do with mc and how quickly he can fix terrible bugs that i really dont think its fair to tell someone to have a good idea of what they can do and what they cant do.

That covers the most important things id say... all in all imo you are going a bit into the extremes here because he really isnt suggesting to make everything like eso. Even IF all of these thigns were put ig exactly the way he suggested them the games would still be very much different and not comparable.

 

*cough* command blocks
1.13 will break 90% of them

 

jp is god ok?

 

I don’t get then how commands still work across multiple versions.

 

wynncraft is wynncraft, NOT an eso ripoff

 

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Still

 

1# any low lv ppl with a high lv buddy to any high lv non-combat based quest

2# ok, crafting, seems fine, but here's another thing THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH INVINTORY SPACE THAT WOULD TAKEEEEEE
3#gunna take a long while, and development, and extra sprite work, and commands, maybe lag, but other than that yeah!
4#At first, I thought you were talking about an INGAME map, which would be awesome, but well, they'll eventually make it bigger, just a matter of time.
5# I would say this could add some neat mechanics, but otherwise, it's meh

all and all, it's fine.

also, bump