Guilds Much Higher Guild Creation Requirements + Auto-disband?

As of now, guilds are stupid easy to make and 99% of them end up dying and wasting a nice tag that an active guild could have actually had.

Seriously, any lad can do like two decent level quests for 5le to make a guild, and most people don't even think twice about the sp knockoff.

So, to make guilds less.. everywhere and reduce the amount of useless dead ones being made, I'm proposing that the guild creation requirement be bumped up heavily, as such..

Lv. Req: 40 -> 90
LE Req: 5 -> 32
SP Req: 3 -> 0

As you can probably see, it's a hefty price (but a fair one that anyone can afford by doing quests alone, if not double that [actually yes double that, and then some]), and the level range is a good reinforcement of the fact that guilds are mostly meant to be an endgame feature (with the exception of just groups of friends who hang out, but then just use parties and Discord .-.).

As an added bonus, this also deterrs the creation of subguilds for major guilds because they'd have to shell out a decent bit of money for a guild that likely won't stay in use for too long.

Spoiler: proving im not a biased Fox member

As you guys read through this, I'm fairly sure a few of you will get the impression of "Bah, he's a member of the top guild in wynn (we're not #1 all the time smh it's shared) so he probably just hates tiny guilds bothering him all the time because he has to redefend all the time".

Well, tbh you're not wrong, that stuff is annoying as hell.

But aside from that, it's just not necessary at all for guilds to be able to be made at the stupid low level they are considering at that level you can't even do anything for your guild. For example, say your guild is level 10 and you're a level 60 player. Fun fact: at level 10, it takes a guild about an hour of holding Lava Lake, the strongest territory in the game in terms of xp, which alone is a feat only level 95-100 players can do remotely easily.

Essentially, the small guilds just sit there and take up pointless space (AND A POTENTIALLY NICE TAG, seriously have any of you tried making a guild it's like impossible to find a tag that isn't taken that isn't a random three letter sequence) that a party could easily fill. It's very unnecessary, and needs changed regardless of bias imo. Hence why I made the thread.

Thanks for the read I suppose, more guild stuff yay.


EDIT: Suggestion by @chichun2002 expanded upon a lil by @Yuno F Gasai that I quite liked, an auto-disband feature for old guilds that haven't seen any activity for a specified amount of time, such as three months. My personal expansion on this is that perhaps there could be a level minimum that prevents the triggering of an auto-disband feature such as level 45 or 50 or something, OR the alternative that I quite like is to have the auto-disband feature's timer scale with the guild level, like how the class deletion system works.

 

no likes from me

 

maybe make it so inactive guilds get disbanded making the name and tag available again?

 

wut

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i agree tho

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lol

 

Just make it so they auto disband after 3 months without any guild activity

 

NOOOOOO!!!

Ok, but seriously, I think guilds can just auto-disband after three months. Really, I think this would be much easier.

 

yea but i think part of the problem is also making a bunch of sub guilds to help in wars

 

Tbh sub guilds are fine

 

not really
5 warrers in a single guild is a lot slower than 5 guilds with a single warrer
you could war a lot faster with more guilds so

 

Let's make much higher guild requirements for creating guilds!

-SP 3 -> 0

 

We should make guilds cost 18 sp

 

the sp loss is basically pointless

 

ik but it's just funny that he was reducing the requirements in a thread focusing on having higher requirements.

-creates guild
-loses 18SP

shit, there go all my items :l

 

and all your le so you have to get a new 32 le

 

now if it took 3 sp from all classes, then id think it would be worth it to increase it, but if its only on one class theres no reason to have it

 

I personally like like idea of 32le for a few reasons, #1 money sink wynns economy is shit could help fix, #2 that way only real committed people would make guilds and wouldn’t just throw away the guild because of such a heavy investment.

 

Yes. I was once the owner of a shitty guild like the ones you have mentioned. It was a terrible decision, and I wouldn't have done it if the prices were higher.

Also, when I eventually ditched the guild, I didn't consider disbanding it (if that's even a thing), and just left the guild to a bunch of players who haven't logged on in years. So rest in peace the tag YYA, never to be used again.

 

This sounds pretty good. The only thing I would also add is for guilds to auto disband after three months of inactivity. That way you could get to use more tags, future inactive guilds won’t take up space, and guilds will still be end game content.

 

I'd prefer if they just required emeralds as upkeep, and if the bank is empty they collapse.

 

I like this idea yeah, I'll throw it up at the top in a sec. :clap:

Honestly I did this more of a personal peeve against the feature itself- soul point loss is 95% pointless and it bothers me that it even exists, considering that it literally doesn't affect you unless you somehow die multiple times per play session.

in which case get a better build smh gosh 100% ezpz

this indeed was my thought process behind the feature, read this lads ^

Eh, but what if a guild goes inactive for like a month and doesn't have much of a bank? It's not long enough for such an auto-disband feature to take place, but it still would cause problems.

Plus this would screw over guilds that don't consistently have territories because they'd have to rely on personal funds, and guilds are more expensive than most people think when you war a lot >.<


To conclude here, on the topic of the auto-disband feature, I like it, but I think the only flaw here might be for legacy guilds that get disbanded before they hope to get revived. Guilds that have been dead for years such as Fuq and TNA both have come back semi-recently (Fuq earlier, TNA now moreso), and this feature wouldn't allow that if it were in place.

Perhaps a level boundary (guild lv 50? 45?) that stops the auto-disband or make it so that the level of your guild scales with the time required for the auto-disband to kick in, like how it works with class deletion?

Idk.