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Cancer: Should We Change Its Name?

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Selvut283, Jun 19, 2018.

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Should we change Cancer's name?

  1. Yes, change Cancer's name(Proposed name: Jormungandr), and add a new Cancer to fill the Zodiac gap.

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  2. Yes, change Cancer's name(Proposed name: Jormungandr), but don't add a new Cancer.

    7 vote(s)
    2.9%
  3. No, don't change Cancer's name.

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  4. I don't care either way.

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    14.7%
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  1. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    I mean yeah, I could see why they have an issue with that, but from reading the posts it seems they literally skipped the part about the new Cancer and only read the thread title and skimmed through the thread really fast.

    The way they interpreted it seems like the item team would re-name Cancer and just... Leave it at that.
     
  2. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Sure, that could be true. But they could have also just not have anything to say about the new item or the zodiac significance. I’ll guess we will find out soon.
     
  3. i eat bees

    i eat bees i eat bees HERO

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    I actually did, But I forgot to mention that if they wanna change Cancer's name and add a new one to fill in the Zodiac gap I'm fine with that, My main issue is that it simply does not make sense to me that someone would be offended by an item called "Cancer" existing in the game, Even in such scenario where the item is a direct and obvious reference towards the disease, The mere idea of someone complaining about this to the CT just seems overwhelmingly stupid to me, Cause like I said before- It's just an item in a video game, It's completely meaningless and absolutely harmless, And that's what I was addressing.
    This just seems like an extreme case of drama seeking.
     
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  4. e!

    e! ⁣e HERO

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    Well, I'm sure every person who died of cancer cares a lot about some block game drama. But still, I'm all for changing name and lore of existing cancer and making a new one, for the sake of accuracy with the Zodiac signs and better lore.
     
  5. ShadowMage1

    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight CHAMPION

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    I bet you laugh at cancer-ridden patients on their deathbeds, dance on their graves in joy and get a good night's sleep after that.
     
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  6. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Boi, I hope you’re joking. Just because you don’t want to change the name of an item on a Minecraft server doesn’t make you heartless against people with cancer. And just because you are offended by something doesn’t mean you have to white wash everything with a negative connotation and insult others. My uncle got throat cancer out of nowhere, yet I don’t demand that they change it for that reason. Neither does Vsauce, who’s own grandfather died of it.
     
  7. ShadowMage1

    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight CHAMPION

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    Oh I'm not insulted, far from it since I want the name changed because the stats do not fit the zodiac. I'm pissed that people here are so pessimistic that they wouldn't even give a shit if someone on here said they're gonna commit suicide and these people would say "Do it. We don't fucking care."
     
  8. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    That's extremely hostile and you're jumping really far to conclusions. The name is insensitive sure, but people not being bothered by it doesn't mean they're in support of people dying.
     
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  9. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Being passive about suicide and not changing words due to SJW’s are two very different things. LordMuttonChops never said anything about suicide, he is just sick and tired about people complaining about things that are harmless.
     
  10. i eat bees

    i eat bees i eat bees HERO

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    First off, Would just like to mention I'm not one of those people, And I never in my life said such thing to someone I suspected is suicidal.
    But come on dude, It's the internet, Could you seriously expect otherwise?
    Almost always anyone who comes to the internet and says that he's going to commit suicide is some attention seeking 12 year old, Can you really blame people for reacting that way?
    If someone really is suicidal he needs to get professional help, Not whine about it to people he never met on a platform where anyone could say anything.
    Again, I'm not saying that there aren't any actual suicidal people out there who are legit when they say stuff like that on the internet, But just- Why? Why the internet out of all places?
    Oh and let me remind you, The internet is a place where you can basically say whatever you want with it almost having no consequences what so ever... At least not direct ones, So of course people will abuse that ability to be as much of an assholes as possible cause there's nothing stopping them, You could call it "Their real self".
    You'd be surprised but I have extremely low sympathy when it comes to people I've never actually met or got to know well.
    Long story short- If I don't know someone, I don't, And won't, Care about his feelings (I don't mean this in the way of if I see someone dying on the street I won't rush in to help, I mean it in the way of I'm not gonna stop joking about something/talking about something just because a certain person is being offended by said thing).
    If I find something funny, No one is gonna be able to stop me from having a good laugh at it, Yes even if the joke involves people having cancer, Hell I'm a jew that makes constant holocaust jokes.
    Also I found that message incredibly funny, Unsure if you intended for it to be a joke or not.
     
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  11. orange0404

    orange0404 corkus is actually here HERO

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    do it
     
  12. Robbee

    Robbee Well-Known Adventurer

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    It's easy to say that people which are offended by this name are too sensitive and should stay away from the internet if you are one of the lucky persons not being affected by cancer. We shouldn't judge people of seeking drama if we can't understand how they feel. Yes, there might be some people which lost relatives to cancer and are not offended (some even stated it here), but this doesn't matter as there are people who actually are; and we should respect them as much as everyone else.
    Whats the problem with changing its name? The ids might fit the name (and they still would with a new name), but they don't fit the Zodiac theming, so a well fitting lore can't be the reason. To me it seems like some people just like to complain about "political correctness", thats the real drama-seeking here. As already stated before, this is just a block game, changing the name won't hurt anyone but may make some people feeling more comfortable with it. And be it just to stop any additional complains, whether they are serious or just for looking attention. Because they will come, again and again.
     
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  13. Riuzake

    Riuzake 9 month waiting room VIP+

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    I'm absolutely fine with the name change if Cancer was used for the zodiac, I'm just uncomfortable with both the fact that it's being changed from outrage as well as the proposed name that the current Cancer will be changed into. Jormungandr wouldn't be a fitting name since no one would understand its meaning. Unless the current Cancer would be renamed into something that would fit into a mythos set, it should either be kept the same name or be renamed into something more simple and understandable, like chemical warfare agents such as VX or Sarin. It would fit somewhat, since the helmet could be thought of as a gas mask. I'll leave it up to the CT to design, but I just don't like the current proposed name.

    Haha what? Seems a pretty extreme choice of words for someone who's not offended. Mutton can be against the name for whatever reason. Stay on topic and present your own argument without insulting others if you don't want to be laughed at.
     
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  14. Psychomentalist

    Psychomentalist Time is not on my side HERO

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    This has gone beyond any ISIS terrorist attacks
     
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  15. icebreaker

    icebreaker Retired YouTuber & Full Stack Web Developer Media HERO

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    If i had cancer , i would be offended tbh, people would just say to me "WTS Cancer" ?
    Change it.
     
  16. Horizon

    Horizon Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Just got out from playing some GOW 4 and I would love to see Jormungandr in the game <3
     
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    Riuzake 9 month waiting room VIP+

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    I wouldn't be offended at all. They don't know that you have cancer and don't mean any offence from it. It's your choice to be offended from some random guy on the internet.
     
  18. ShadowMage1

    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight CHAMPION

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    Ok then. Guess I'll just kill myself and we'll see if you're fucking laughing then. My life is a fucking joke anyway.
     
  19. Riuzake

    Riuzake 9 month waiting room VIP+

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    I don't know what really prompting you to make these kinds of posts, but please stop. If you have some kind of issue in your personal life, I highly recommend that you seek help or a loved one instead of getting angry at people online. It's a much better way of getting emotional support.
     
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  20. Salkasm

    Salkasm [[Hyperlink Blocked]] Staff Member Mod Manager Moderator CHAMPION

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    Please stay on topic, it regards the change of name towards a certain item.
    If you need any help, consider professional one. Intentional jokes and serious thoughts of suicide is no laughing matter, thank you.

    Edit: This of course also counts for the rest, we really need a discussion and feedback to determine the fate of the item Cancer.
     
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