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Any Class Help Earth Thunder - Freedom For Those Poor Skill Points!

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by YYGAYMER, Jun 5, 2018.

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  1. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    Yes.
    Known as the worst element combo.
    But I have some reasons to ask this build type.


    I've seen some water builds.
    They just put stats on 'Intelligence' as much as they can, then put left on the other stats.
    However, I think that damn 'Intelligence' stat consumes all your skill points, which makes you face the lack of skill points(If it is not full water build), and if it goes worse, what could happen next?


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    The Rainbow Slap

    ..It' just my opinion anyway.
    But if this cycle is real, we can say Intelligence = Rainbow Slap = Ruins the creativity and make builds boring.

    This sounds bad for me.
    I want to get out from this cycle.
    (Also, not putting stats on 'Intelligence' will make more remaning skill points!)



    Another reason.
    I've seen the many Earth/Thunder items made by IMs.
    But even with their works, those items are just considered with 'hmm', and that's it.
    In short, I want to see them used on builds.
    (By trying this, maybe I would meet more hybrid stats?)


    So here are my requirements :


    - No rainbow slap
    - No too much morph (Morph is fine, but using too much of them will ruin the concept..)
    - No full melee build (kys)
    - 11k health+ (At least 10k)
    - No depending on stat pots (kys)
    - Weapon must be Earth/Thunder (Double offensive stats might come out with interesting damage)
    Something like Earth/Thunder/Fire is allowed. However, no rainbow.
    - Good hybrid stats that can reach intelligence spam builds.
    - I'm sorry, but no Petrified Horror. (It already found its way, right?)
    - No lack of skill points by Str/Dex stats. Even if it is Earth/Thunder anyway, but it doesn't fit my purpose. (Can't put stats on the other stats like Def/Agi)
    - Usable, ofc
    - SHIT THAT LONG SENTENCES ARE JUST MY OPINION. PLEASE TRY NOT TO MAKE OBJECTION AND FOCUS ON THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD

    This might be the challenge..

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    Madkurre construction worker

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    highbread highbread

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  4. Lemon

    Lemon Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Gah why are there so many damn requirements.

    Well, I basically violated every single req in making this, but hey its strength/dex. https://wynndata.tk/s/YRmv6i
     
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  5. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    At least no things like 'No LI/Dungeon/Merchant/Legendary/Hive/Quest'

    Bete Noire.. the thing I've worried.
    If I could improve dead mana regen... maybe
     
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    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account

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  7. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    Something I came up with. The mana is kinda bad though. I guess you could use Elder Oak Roots, but that would kinda ruin the whole earth-thunder thing and the melee would suffer a lot from it. Also it's skill point tight if you wanna get five mana spins. And the defences are unbalanced.
     
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  8. SgtClips

    SgtClips Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    As far as I know Dex+Strentgh give diminishing returnes and are hence kind of a waste (strength doesnt work on crits)
     
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    highbread highbread

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    time for a small example to show big effects (oops i guess the example became large)
    https://wynndata.tk/s/C9JE7g
    as you can see
    this has pretty high damage for a non mythic mage build
    on top of that, it has relatively low damage % with only 80 raw spell
    yet, it's getting more than 12.5k meteor damage
    lets go over the damage boost str and dex is giving
    time to calculate a bunch of shit
    so, there is a 66% boost in earth damage and thunder damage.
    we also add 66% due to str boosting overall damage
    then we add another 66% cause dex has a 66% chance to add 100%
    overall, that is +132% in spell and melee damage, and +66% in earth and thunder damage.
    so that's +198% damage for thunder and earth
    or to put this into id values
    203% spell damage
    240% melee damage
    96% earth damage
    111% thunder damage

    if you change the damage in the build to what i just put above and remove the strength and dexterity, you'll see that it'll be about the same (any differences is probably cause i rounded 66.1 to 66).

    yeah it has a pretty big effect
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/how-damage-is-calculated.176082/
     
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    Minkashev Well-Known Adventurer

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    Limbo MS quake/chain build with some melee lulz?
     
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    SgtClips Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Damn I wish I just stayed with my disbelief, because I have a headache now. Anyways thanks for elaborating. Btw I still have no clue how strength/dex work.
     
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