World Discoverer Nerf

So, I've been thinking about discoverer, and before you say anything about this being a bad idea. I want to say that Discoverer's Lore doesn't fit. "Power, but at what cost?"


Honestly, there is no real cost.

Now you can argue that 0 health is a cost. But, 0 isn't a negative. 0 is Neutral. So it has to have some downgrade a negative to it so it can fit is lore again.

So I prepose that we nerf Discoverer to have -1 Health, so it can fit its lore. This isn't a large nerf. But I believe its fair enough to keep Discoverer a good Chestplate.

What do you think, is this a good nerf?


Of course you guys come up with the conclusion that 0 health = a Negative or -health.

For Example if a chest plate adds 3k, thats an ADDITION, Not a Negative. The Chestplate ADDS health. Discoverer Doesn't. Replacing it with Discoverer just reverts it back to 0, 0 isn't negative, nor adding. -1 is taking away which is infact a negative stat.

 

0 is neutral irl, but games function differently. If you have a 3.5k chestplate and you equip discoverer, you experience the cost, -3.5k health

 

why dont you just make it -5hp to become a meme like virgo

 

but its less health, its not actually taking away any health at all

 

:l
Do I need to point out that if you got less health you actually took away a portion of it!?

 

Im trying to say, a Negative is when You have Less health when you wear the chestplate than without any chestplate at all. thats not happening. So not fitting the lore

And when you have less health, its when the Added health from a Chestplate is taken away

 

I agree. Discoverer does need to have more negative ids.

 

That's literally not how the health on gear works. I understand your point, but at that level, 0 health isn't a reference value.
And we are not going to add -1 health. If 0 health isn't a cost according to you, then -1 wouldn't be either, objectively speaking.

 

I think a negative should be added, like maybe -50% spell damage. And also, the lore is kind of weird, since it says “POWER, but at what cost?” Power? It gives loot bonus. I wouldn’t call that power. It should say “Luck, but at what cost?”

 

"But at what cost?" Before the buff, we all knew the cost. Just search up the I'ds. Now i know that the lore is basically for a player who is experiencing everything for the first time, but saying "at what cost" in a way implies that no one should know what the cost of it is, so I would suggest having a negative health ID on it so that it's random, like cata. (maybe like -100 to -1000) therefore discoverer prices won't all be based on lb, even though they mostly still will be lol, but yea thats my suggestion.

 

silly, that's Pandemonium's lore
"Wealth and riches...but at what cost?" is discoverer's lore
anyway discoverer used to give debuffs (-2k hp, -walkspeed) but they haven't changed the lore
although some can say that -0 hp is a cost for the chestplate.

why not instead of nerfing the item, we change the lore
it's a mediocre chestplate that has no use outside of mob grinding and loot running
and a -1 hp drop is too insignificant to actually consider it a "cost"

 

Do you guys have issue with discoverer's IDs or lore only? Or both?

 

L o r e

otherwise lootbonus just helps the rich get richer, and honestly a 50% LB change will hardly increase the massive gap in the community between poor people and rich people

 

but disco really sucks with -hp and its useless for loot running and farming is completely unrewarding so it doesnt need to be nerfed

 

it should still have a downside to wearing it so it fits the lore however

 

it should have a downside so selling it doesn't give 25 stacks >.<

 

I think your prices are a bit off because the only way someone is going to buy one for 25 stacks is if they dont know that that will be impossible to resell and it would also have to be absolute maximum
and whats your problem with people gaining money its how the economy works

 

I think you’re forgetting that mythics like warp and divzer have huge downsides and still sell for that amount

In response to the actual thread, I think discoverer’s lore should be changed altogether, it’s bland and boring for a mythic and it’s also very similar to another item’s lore (Pandemonium)

 

People care about items lore? This one doesn't even affect anything outside of itself in the lore. I think discoverer is cool beans as it is and doesn't need to be nerfed, especially something useless like -1 health.

 

Or how about they give it an actually good lore and not a shitty Pandemonium ripoff?