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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by WynnWarri0r, Feb 23, 2018.

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Should the refund system be better than it is now?

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  2. nuuu

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  3. what's that?

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  1. TheWynnWizard

    TheWynnWizard Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    But they told me they cant do anything thats what this thread is about
     
  2. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    I completely agree that shouldn't have happened and likely nothing you could have done would have fixed it since that's the case. People have lost items to bugs before as well. Though I wish for specific mishaps like losing items to bugs, where the control over items being lost is out of the player's control, there were a better fix, but bringing back a broken and abused system won't fix that. Your suggestion is IMO wrong, but I completely agree that the character selection/duping bugs would be taken care of. Again, I don't agree with your proposed fix, but feel you he was put in the situation by outside factors that he couldn't control and shouldn't have even been able to find himself in it. Bugs are an unfortunate part of the game, but making the parts of the game that are working worse, is not a fix anyone wants.
     
  3. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Like NicBomb said, I agree with that it was completely out of his control to lose his items, but we shouldn’t implement the old system. Because they will always be bugs and glitches, I think there should be a sort of virtual insurance that would be monitored by a mod or two. Players can then donate their unwanted items to the pool. The key difference, however, is that players need to register their item(s) first before they are covered by the insurance by either showing community leaders or mods their items. That way, players would have definitive proof b4 they lost their items. Even if the player gains other items after he or she shows a mod their initial items, the new items wouldn’t be covered by the insurance. All of the information could be tracked via an Excel file, and players at most could register 5 items. In addition, due to Mythic’s rarity, mythic items will never be covered.

    While this isn’t perfect (since players might not know that it exists, and it might be hard to manage after a long time), it’s better than nothing.
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    Edit: In addition, players who are covered by insurance must pay membership dues of 4 EB per week, or 32 LE in total for life. I.e, if you pay upfront the 32le, you won’t have t pay membership fees anymore. Failure to do so will result in a message reminding the player to pay. After another week of not paying, the player is kicked out of the insurance. However, a player could just donate an item (depending on the rarity and stats) instead of paying in emeralds.

    Lastly, a player cannot receive items back with higher stats. For example, if a player registers their 2/4 mana regen Aquaris and loses it, he or she cannot receive a 7/4 Mana Regen Aquaris.
     
  4. WynnWarri0r

    WynnWarri0r Lord and Saviour of the undeserved bans VIP+

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    Okay, I understand your "thinking". But still, losing all your items and that's it. That makes players wanna stop playing, he stopped for a few days but now he accepted his "faith"and continued playing.
     
  5. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    I've had one of those moments. In fact I'd think everyone has at one point during their time playing this or another game been through a rough patch and felt like quitting or not playing anymore. To that I remind both you that wynncraft won't change because you lost those items, only how you play it. You had to go through all the way up to level 100, and more than likely by playing more you'll get there again just as myself and many others have. My favorite archer build (RIP Vampiric Plague) was made obsolete and I essentially stopped playing for a few months. After coming back I felt better and refreshed since all the recent patches made the quality of life fixes that everyone really wanted for a long time. The game is in a better state then ever before, so don't let losing a few items stop you from enjoying it.
    I know that seemed like a non sequitur but the main point is; I hope you understand that everyone's had something similar happen, but it isn't the end of your journey in wynncraft unless you stop playing. The system shouldn't be changed because of this, but I wouldn't be opposed to something new taking its place either (and I think most people will agree with all of the above).
     
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  6. Thega

    Thega ```Interesting flavour text``` CHAMPION

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    I thought you because you are active in the community and probably have enough capital to start insuring from day 1.
     
  7. WynnWarri0r

    WynnWarri0r Lord and Saviour of the undeserved bans VIP+

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    Of course you shouldn't let it stop you from enjoying Wynncraft, but it has happened and for some players Wynncraft won't be anymore what it used to be. They will be scared it'll happen again to them, more stress, they will be more careful while playing. You can take that as a good thing but it takes away the fun of playing it a little (or maybe a lot).
     
  8. coolname2034

    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    Would you be making this fuss if the glitch had been beneficial? If mythical had duped onto a level 1 class
     
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  9. WynnWarri0r

    WynnWarri0r Lord and Saviour of the undeserved bans VIP+

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    Ask him. I would still report it although I won't be asking for a refund, would anyone do?
     
  10. TheWynnWizard

    TheWynnWizard Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Yes
     
  11. rainbowcraft2

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    I know of a server where they have a program to track what was dropped by who, when it was dropped, if it was picked up and by who it was picked up, etc. If there were a system like that, it wouldn't be possible to abuse, would it?
     
  12. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Of course it will be possible to abuse.
    Wynn has so many loopholes right now that you can't track anything
     
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  13. WynnWarri0r

    WynnWarri0r Lord and Saviour of the undeserved bans VIP+

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    @Jumla we believe in you!
     
  14. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    You can't patch a loophole without opening another one
     
  15. Eula

    Eula Weeb Archer VIP+

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    Who needs shops when you can throw away all your items that you don't want for free le?
     
  16. WynnWarri0r

    WynnWarri0r Lord and Saviour of the undeserved bans VIP+

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    @Jumla can do everything. (maybe not but I still believe in him cuz im a tru Jumler)
     
  17. SaltyKing

    SaltyKing Banana CHAMPION

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    As odd as it sounds
    The 'No re-fund policy' is actually incredibly fair
    No one gets something someone else doesn't
    If a refund thingy got set up not everyone would be able to get refunded.
    Simple as that
    With this system there is no system... Nothing to abuse... Nothing to be unfair amongst different players.
     
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  18. bobotje

    bobotje Snt best cult! HERO

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    A refund system is nearly impossible on a server like wynncraft, wynncraft has a lot of players online every day. If all those players know there is a refund system, be sure people will abuse it.
     
  19. WynnWarri0r

    WynnWarri0r Lord and Saviour of the undeserved bans VIP+

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    How can you abuse it without proof? You have to do a lot of effort to make fake proof and still, people now aren't abusing it. What they need is some way to check people's inventory at any time. It sounds impossible and maybe it is. Because you won't always have the proof needed.
     
  20. bobotje

    bobotje Snt best cult! HERO

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    The problem is. How will the player show proof of items? You dont lose the items like its planned. Losing items happens suddenly and you can't be prepared for that.
     
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