Wynncraft's Mistake.

I know Wynncraft isn't yet what it should be for most players. They've made some mistakes and always tried to fix them. I don't blame them if someone got scammed or... it's not their fault. They try to make sure the player gets what he/she wants. And I totally understand that it's in some cases impossible to give the player back what he/she lost. I think the refund system isn't what it should be. Of course they can't just randomly spawn you a mythic with the exact same stats as it had before. But maybe they could get the lost item price checked and give back the amount of le it was worth. My friend's level 100 dark wizard for example, he joined and his inventory was empty. His armor, weapon, accessories and other stuff were gone. And in that case, you can't give him back his items, cuz they're just gone. But what if the items got price checked, let's just say all the items togheter were worth 40le. Why don't give him the 40le? If it's not possible to just spawn random le in the game I understand you can't do anything about it. With this title I may be too harsh on Wynn, but it's what I think about the refund system. I'm sorry. Of course, I shouldn't blame Wynncraft for scams (again) but if an item is gone (or a whole inventory of items) by a glitch or a bug, you should do something about it. If you can't give the player his/her item back, do your very best to fix the problem. You probably do that already but I just wanted to say it.

Conclusion: "In my opinion, the refund system should be better."

 

The problem with a refund system is that it is hard to prove is someone is lying or telling the truth. If there were to be a refund system like this, people will abuse it, which is why wynncraft tends to not refund at all.

 

Its mistake is ToL

 

I am not the person he is talking about.

 

True, and that's why they're asking for proof. But what if you have proof, than they usually don't refund either.

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Indeed *cough* too pussy/lazy to do it himself *cough*

 

The refund policy hasn't always been in place. It happened when the old system was abused. Giving back items could also take a lot of time off the few people who can. "Proof" can be easily faked, and even if it was time consuming, a free strati could net someone dozens of stacks

 

Proof is incredibly easy to fake
If you try to ask for proof, you'll likely receive fake proof
And checking though server logs to see would be insanely time consuming

 

This belongs in suggestions.
Also, first problem I see is people taking images of mythics they already have and sending them saying they got lost into this system, then getting a refund without losing any items. The easiest way to avoid losing items is to unbind the drop key so that accidents cannot happen. The next easiest way is to get a mod to lock items; now I understand that not everyone is comfortable modding minecraft, downloading mods from sketchy places (even though the wynncraft forums aren't too sketchy IMO lol), and being able to run mods (even though mods don't slow down minecraft much when they're only client side and not adding lots of graphical elements) are common complaints with that suggestion. In the end the only thing that can be done about this issue is on the player's part. You play the game, you drop the item. No one can help if you or anyone else won't help themselves. Somewhat pessimistic, but nonetheless true.

 

You people dont get it I logged onto my Dark Wizard and My hunters inventory had been duped into its and it had replaced my almost max speed set.
It is very easy to go look at my classes' data rn and see that there I have all of the armor and weapons of my hunter on three classes with the exact same stats.

 

Yes, you drop the item you play the game you can fake proof. But what if it isn't a drop, let's say your inventory got cleared. What would you do than? It's not your fault, you couldn't do anything about it? Don't you think you should deserve a second chance?

 

even though that would be pretty unfortunate, it would still be near impossible to know if that was a scam or a trick or not.

 

Ahh yes. The current refund policy. I love it.
Truthfully. But that's not to say I haven't lost things in the past.
The amazingly good feature of it is that sometimes it changes the community's directon. From being selfish LE and mythic hoarders to empatetic, real, nice, people.
That could change too. @Khaps or someone could start an insurance company, with a certain charge per month, and perhaps with the help of mods to check inventories.
But that wouldn't be empathy. That would be law. It wouldn't be someone giving away their personal possesions, it would be a system.
Not saying that a virtual insurance company isn't a good idea.

 

just as Poke mentioned, the refund policy was put in place from people who abused the old policy.

You abused it, now there's none. Simple as that.
if you need something to blame, blame those people.

Just like that one troublemaker who ruins it for everyone in a school classroom.

 

Okay, but do we really have to get punished for what some stupid players used to do? We're not responsible for their mistakes.

It's like the teacher responding to the troublemaker with: "Everyone, thanks to (name) you all have a test, take a piece of paper..."

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Like it tho xDD

 

It reminds the students that the teacher is in charge. In this case, it reminds players that the content team won't stand for cheaters or scammers playing the system to get what they want. Makes sense and eliminates the problem the old system had altogether.

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No one is clearing your inventory for you. Lets say you give someone your password and they troll you by throwing out all your stuff, that's your fault. Lets say you die repeatedly and lose a ton of items, still your fault. Lets say that you unbind the drop key and don't lose any items to throwing your (insert item name here) and losing it to (insert source of item destruction ie lava, hopper, etc. here). All 3 of those are down to the player making a choice. Only one of them has a good outcome and solves the problem. Care to guess which one?

 

Wat, why me xd its not because I own an "entreprise" (dang that makes me laugh to actually write that, aren't entreprises supposed to make money? xd) that I'll obviously be the one to make an insurance :p


Also, I think the no refund policy is fine as it is, and don't think I'm saying that because I never lost anything, I lost hive item and many other to glitches, but i'm not here to start a bragging competition about who lost the more.
The only way I would find it worth it to refund someone's item would be if they were recording while they lost the item, but again, that'd probably be abusable in some way, and having a not-as-strict refund policy would make more people beg for them items.

 

My friend @Arcturisus lost his archer inventory once due to a glitch, and according to jp, he would have to shut down the server for an hour to recover the items.

He can't do that because this server is lyfe.

 

Read @TheWynnWizard 's text again and you'll understand...

 

No I completely understand what happened to @TheWynnWizard was a bug in which his class got duped and overwrote another class, meaning they went from having a dark wizard and hunter, to a dark wizard and dark wizard. That should go as a bug report and be fixed, but is in no way related to the refund policy as the items are still attached to that hunter's inventory (therefore I'd believe are recoverable). What you are suggesting is that a new system be created for the refund policy, a completely separate issue that you have now confused with this one. Rather than jumping to conclusions you should see if the content team has a fix for the issue. Recently someone had a class dupe and had 11 characters. I'm sure whatever was done to solve that issue could fix @TheWynnWizard 's case too. Your arguement, on the other hand, is still wrong and you're redirecting from the big deal here: There shouldn't be a new system because the old system was abused in the same way a new one would be, and there are other fixes the player can enact while playing, to avoid the issue.

 

I have to disagree on that one since he doesn't get refund (his items in his inv at that time nor any le). So it does have to do something with refunding of items.