[not Out Yet] A Mod Idea Brewing In My Head

They're not allowed.

 

Not trying to start anything, but why aren’t they allowed?

 

@Pretzule
I am trying to start something.. Why?
The more logical thing to not be allowed is the top of rodoroc where you cant usually stand.. for that matter, why are normal maps ok?

 

Because there are some underground secrets that shouldn't be viewed by the public, or hidden areas underground that the player must find on their own.
If you had a cave map then you'll be able to see what you're not supposed to see.

 

Does it matter if its a map that reveals easter eggs/secret areas or just a path map?
The map that will be in the mod will be modified anyways because I need to remove things and add things and the mapping method I use will only
read connected air blocks and player reachability meaning it will record anything connected by the same floor, Not anything through walls..

Also, Why are top-down maps ok? You never really walk on top of the molten areas' roofs around rodoroc do you?
And map mods still show that place bright and well...

What about wynncraft's map? What the carp is this(amazingly built) huge statue? I went there and it looks like the cave fits nicely into a place where its rare to come across it.. I dont think without wynnraft's map I would even consider going in that area...

 

I understand that you are seemingly hellbent on doing this, but please respect the rules we have in place. I've given you the main reason why we do not allow cave maps.

Why wouldn't top down maps be fine? They just show the pathways and what leads to which town/city when you're starting out so you get a basic idea of where things are. Most caves lead to dead ends, or Easter eggs that should be found on each player's own free time instead of being found hidden away on a small map.
The area with Rodoroc was rendered that way because that's how the map was built, yeah it sucks that it's kind of covered, but still at that level you should be adept enough to understand the area after you walk around there a few times. If the area is difficult we do allow waypoints so that users get a general idea of where an area is by marking its location down.

The statue is a statue for now.

 

I think I see why they are not allowed.. The top down map has its purpose to get from a place to place, Not look for easter eggs...
May I try asking permission for another thing:
What if, I did the normal topdown render of the map over rodoroc, But, I will manually mark paths that go to places instead of it automatically mapping the whole cave system with all of the dead ends and easter eggs/secrets..

That way, ONLY paths that go to known places will be put down as a lower opacity layer on the molten region...

Other than that, A mapping of paths will be in the mod anyways without exact block recording since I want to try make an automated system that tries to create paths as a sort of GPS for the fastest way to get to places...

 

Oh please do that, I wanted to make this for Wynncraft Worldmap Mod but didn't get around doing it because of other priorities with the mod. But since I probably wont add it for a while either I want to support you with the information I learned when planning this.
Since I didn't know much about pathfinding when I first thought of it I looked into different types, while using the ones I found for a game I was working on, and the one I found to work the very best of the ones I found was the A* (AStar) algorithm which was acting very fast. I wont go into detail but instead of finding the first shortest path it finds the most efficient (lowest cost) path combined with the shortest distance to the target. I know Unknown with have mixed feeling with this reply but if you manage to make a GPS system I would be really satisfied actually :P

 

Sounds like a good idea. Navigation can be hard. however, there is one issue and experienced player who is a part of the community is probably the only one who is going to find your mod. For it to be helpful there would need to be a way for newer players to find out about it. Which would move the entire community forward by allowing people to join more easily. Just something for you to think about.

 

Still waiting for response on that @Pretzule , If you say its still not good I wont do it.. Seems like a fair way around it tho...

I thought of that when I was doing SHCMWynn.. The only way to do it is through telling people about it in game.. New players wont use the forums......
Lets do like most stupid youtubers! SHARE WITH YOUR FRIENDS COMMENT LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!

I actually found a really good way to do a gps shortest path algorithm.. I dont know if its a* or what was the name of where I found that algorithm..
I know for sure I didnt make it up.. I dont have time rn to research a* tho...

 

You want to do the possible of displaying a map that shows A LOT of things, and the impossible things that only really high up people on the wynncraft staff team have access too?(like a constant list of guild territories, or discovery areas) The furthest you would get would be a copy of the map wynn enhanced has, or maybe a bit further than that. However, it would be it's own mod which is cool. Whatever the outcome, I wish you success!

 

seems great :)

 

What you mean is you draw the pathways yourself over the overworld area that's covering Rodoroc, right?

 

Yes, and only paths to known and common places, rodoroc or dcave or exits from the molten area or the way to ahmsord's islands etc..
I might use a paintbrush that looks like the actual paths tho so it will look just a bit more fitting..

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After the discussion about secrets i dont think ill do discoveries as now i understand its more of a personal "game goal" to find them, a map that shows you where they are will ruin it....

But, territories are not a secret and wynncraft's api gives you access to up to date info on guild territories..

 

Not sure if I'm understanding SHCM's argument with Pretz but can he just show the system of Rodoroc and nothing else?

 

I think exactly that is not doable..
It would require the mapping of "an underground area" or whatever and that means thats bannable.....
Other than that, Trust me when I say, You will know how to get to Rodoroc's bank, the scroll shop and even Chef Hamsey's restaurant...
Imagine asking in chat "WM How do I get to Sherk's house?" or "WM Sherk's house" and the plan is, an automated GPS will get you the fastest path to there with HUDs and waypoints..
Or even "WM [x y z]" will do the same to the xyz..

 

I am taking this as an OK unless you say otherwise @Pretzule , Sorry for annoying so much with this feature but I'm really trying to not to do something illegal..

 

Yeah, it's fine.

 

So, how's progress on the mod going?