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World Improving/revamping The Emeralds System!

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Jbip, Nov 11, 2017.

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  1. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    Open the spoilers to see all the screenshots and that good stuff

    Heya!
    Ever had problems when stocking your emeralds to your bank? Or having too many emeralds in your inventory during a loot run/grinding session? Then this is the suggestion to fix that. It aims to fix all the problems about emerald storage and even the economy!

    The player will have a new slot in its inventory (Yes, that'd be another slot taken, but let me explain)!
    [​IMG]
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    How does that work?
    Basically, every emerald you pick up on the ground will directly go to this emerald pouch. Now hear me out: we always have a few emeralds in our inventory because it always come in handy. Adding a new inventory slot to replace all these emeralds will only make it better! I'll go into other details such as trading and shops later.

    Not only that, but the bank will also have the same item with a few tweaks.

    What's this level thing?
    A new player will always begin with a small emerald pouch, level 0. What it does is that you can't have more than 8EB at first. If it's full, every new emerald you pick up will instead go in your inventory much like it does today, so no worries!

    How to upgrade the pouch?

    To upgrade your emerald pouch, you must go to a bank/city! There, you'll find a new NPC (Couldn't find any names! I thought of a "leatherworker" in the city or something, not sure) that can upgrade your pouch for emeralds. So yeah, in a way, that's a new money sink, which is definitely something the game needs!
    0 -> 1: 512 Emeralds (8EB)
    1 -> 2: 2048 Emeralds (32EB)
    2 -> 3: 1le
    3 -> 4: 2le
    4 -> 5: 3le
    5 -> 6: 5le
    6 -> 7: 8le
    7 -> 8: 12le
    8 ->9: 14le
    9 -> 10: 16le

    Not a professional for this, so this may be expensive or cheap, but there's more!

    Level 0: 8EB
    Level 1: 16EB
    Level 2: 32EB
    Level 3: 4096E (1le)
    Level 4: 2le
    Level 5: 4le
    Level 6: 6le
    Level 7: 8le
    Level 8: 12le
    Level 9: 16le
    Level 10: 131 072E (32le)

    Keep in mind that this is your inventory pouch. You usually don't go around carrying that much money on you.
    The numbers can also seem pretty random for a new player. That's why it may be better if the limit was like "1000 emeralds, 3000 emeralds ect...". I'm not sure though so I'm keeping it this way for now.

    Levels also affect a few other things:
    A level 4 pouch makes it so the dropped emeralds from the stealing ID directly go into the pouch (pretty minor)
    A level 7 pouch allows the player to convert the emeralds in their pouch without a bank (will go into this later)
    When the pouch is upgraded to level 10, you can choose to make it so every emerald you pick up directly go into your bank!

    Trading, today emeralds
    The emeralds we have today won't get cleared at all. Instead, they'll be sort of "bank notes". Right clicking any emeralds in your inventory will put it in your pouch. You could also drag the emeralds on the pouch.
    The emeralds converters in the bank will be used to create these "emerald notes". They will still offer emeralds, emerald blocks, and liquified emeralds. That way, you can convert your overall money to LEs, EBs ect...

    This would make trading the same as right now, so this shouldn't be a problem!

    Shops
    The items you buy in a shop directly use the emeralds from your pouch. This means that for example this text:
    --[2EB 32E]--
    would become:
    --[162E]--
    This could mean a somewhat major change in the code, but they're doing the refractor anyways! :D <- They actually added it in game now!
    With the new pouch, it would also make it easier to tell if that's a lot of money or not.
    You cannot buy items with prices greater than your pouch size (A level 1 pouch can hold 1 le, some items are worth more than 1 le for example). Subject to change maybe?

    The bank storage
    Your bank also have a personal emerald storage that acts just like the emerald pouch, except that it holds much much more emeralds. A maxed one should be able to hold an infinite amount of emeralds! It should be much more expensive to upgrade though, but the first level should be able to hold one stack the LEs.

    To transfer your money from your pouch to your bank, simply click on the pouch while the bank is open.

    Storage and pouch GUI
    Clicking on your emerald pouch will open a GUI to change some settings!
    [​IMG]
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    This is pretty minor, if anyone has ideas for more stuff here, I'll gladly take them.

    Easier converting
    Converting LEs or EBs could be a tedious task! That's why when you go to an emerald converter, the GUI would be different to help:
    [​IMG]
    This would be the same for the other emerald types.

    EDIT: They actually also added that!

    As said before, a level 7 pouch gives the ability to convert the emeralds in your pouch anywhere. Not the emeralds in your bank though. I don't see how this would be really useful except in trading, but it's there.

    Misc. stuff
    There's a few things to note with this new system though. For example, the item buyer should instantly give the emeralds in your pouch.

    Emeralds from today would need to be right clicked to go into the pouch and all (to avoid glitches about losing items).
    The emerald balance level from the bank will obviously stay the same between classes, but the emerald pouch will always be level 1, and does not transfer between classes.
    A player should be able to pickup emeralds into their pouch even if their inventory is full.

    Trying to add the emeralds in your inventory to your full pouch:
    [​IMG]

    When you fill your emerald pouch for the first time:
    [​IMG]

    Conclusion
    This would help fixing multiple things:
    1. Storage problems
    2. Economy with a new money sink
    3. Shop consistency (everything will use emeralds, no need to gather blocks, LEs and emeralds to buy something from a shop)
    4. The actual economy could change a lot if we change some of the values (Mythics could be sold for "1M" instead of "10LE stacks". This is more user friendly and the overall economy would be easier to understand. Random values (with 4096E being 1le) are confusing.
    5. Death penalty would be more consistent with this pouch!
    6. Can make for a more enjoyable experience!
    I didn't write the pouch values because I'm not really good at this, but if you really want to I could do it. I hope you enjoyed this suggestion, and I'm sure I forgot a lot of things and there's probably a lot of flaws so be sure to ask questions if you didn't understand something so I can help and add more indepth explanation to this thread! I'm always open to good feedback and criticism :saltedhigh:

    11/11/2017: Created thread.
    22/11/2017: Edited pouch prices
    25/12/2017: Edited pouch sizes
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2018
  2. Hghuy

    Hghuy Well-Known Adventurer

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    Cool man, I've always wanted more bank space and would like this to be added. That or more bank space, but with this pouch, more bankspace may not be needed. I cant critique but still seems like a cool idea
     
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  3. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Great idea! I always wanted Wynncraft to use bank notes or a digital system like most games do. Especially now when inflation is so high and people have banks full of le.
     
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    HalfCat_ Supporter of Catania HERO GM Builder

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    Pretty cool. Maybe a bit too high upgrade cost for the lower levels? It's really annoying when something costs say 32 emeralds and you only got an EB and you gotta go to the bank. This will fix that so great suggestion. +1
     
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    China you used to call me on ur banana VIP+

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    Loveeee it, I think it's great +1
     
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  6. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    Thank you!
    As for the price, remember that you can still keep emeralds as items if your pouch is full! Same for the bank! It's only really expensive when upgrading from level 6 to 10, and at this point it would only be for better storage (and the final ability), since you should be able to store all the emeralds you want in your inventory to buy everything from the shops.
    It's more as a money sink for the rich players!
     
  7. HalfCat_

    HalfCat_ Supporter of Catania HERO GM Builder

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    It depends on how much it improves the pouch and for around what level it is supposed to be for. I feel like upgrading to level 2 is something you should be able to do as around a level 20 but 32 EB is alot for such a low level player.
    I say level 20 because if it were meant for a higher level people would just wonder when they would get to upgrade the pouch and not be motivated to continue.
    If they play for a pretty long time and don't actually get to upgrade anything the player might get demotivated and stop playing. Also you shouldn't automatically start with a pouch and maybe a little lower capacity atleast for level 1.
     
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  8. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    You're right actually! Maybe you could start with a level 0 pouch that you can upgrade with 8EB so a low level player has an idea on how that works
    I'll change the thread!
     
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    DrX2345 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Cool idea! I think this would be great, as there have been many times where I've been reluctant to chuck out a few stacks of emeralds in order to pick up a weapon, but then I'm always like 'what if that's a mythic' and worry about what to do and then I'm swarmed and die. Lol what was that.
    Anyway, I support this, and if they added the Better Banks solution then the whole emerald system would work a lot better. I like the money sink, but I don't know if the prices are good or nah.
     
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    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    agreed this is excellent
     
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  11. That_Chudley

    That_Chudley Wynncraft Addict HERO

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    Excellent idea +1!
     
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  12. Khaps

    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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    Seems really good man!

    Maybe even make high level of pouch be even higher on price since rich people are ready to pay such ridiculous amount of money to max something out ;)

    Overall, I really love this idea, even though it kinda looks like a part of "better banks" idea or smthing like that

    One problem may be :
    - It takes a lot of time to do. (or does it? i'm actually bad at programming but if Jumla doesn't start drinking tea to not spill cofee on his computer... lawl)

    Oh and also, you talked about this :
    However not all emeralds can be stored in the pouch, so it should be 162E/ 2EB 32E to avoid having to do the maths when you have 3 EB to know if you're good or not ;)
     
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  13. Aya

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    lol you wish
     
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    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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    Bein' poor suks rite?
     
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  15. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    I was also thinking of something else but that's kind of an economy revamp at this point
    I should've said in the thread but I forgot, I had the idea of making emeralds (the items in your inventory) only usable to add money to your balance/pouch, not used to buy items with them.
    I wasn't sure about this idea so it's not in the thread, but yeah an alternative would be to put both values as you said!

    As for the "time consuming" part, they're doing the code refractor, and it'll be way easier for them to add features :D
     
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    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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  17. OGK

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    Looks good! It'll give me the false feeling that I have no money when I do! That way I don't spend much!
     
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    if this gets in lemme just farm the matryoshka Idol
     
  19. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    Just bumping this, because I feel like it :D
     
  20. RoseGoldIsntGay

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    holy shit thats op af
    u know how much emeralds ill get from ice heights farming?
    u still get a +1 from me daddy
     
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