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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by WynnChairman, Nov 7, 2017.

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Gud idea?

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  2. no (why not)

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  1. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    I would suggest that we create a system where the weapon you're using stays equipped even while you're not holding it.

    This could possibly be a slot on your hotbar, similar to an accessory slot, where you could deposit your weapon.
    We may also be able to use the dual wielding system once we update to 1.9.

    You would of course, no longer be able to use weapons other than the one in this slot.

    Pros -
    Streamlined the weapon wielding system
    Prevents armor losses through the SP glitch

    Cons -
    ???

    Credit to @Kraetys for re-writing thread
     
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  2. BrickBuilder03

    BrickBuilder03 A penguin that likes turtles. VIP

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    This could possibly ruin weapons like warp. I think the better solution would be to just keep the current weapon equipped until you have another weapon in your hand.
     
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  3. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    well did u read the whole thing?
    :/
     
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    BrickBuilder03 A penguin that likes turtles. VIP

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    I'm sorry I understood it like it was a specific weapon slot.
     
  5. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    What I meant wad that it can be used either way and the equip function would be optional
     
  6. DrX2345

    DrX2345 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I guess it's not a bad idea, if I understood correctly. So, if you have a (for example) air weapon in slot 1, and a neutral weapon in slot 2, and the air weapon has very high walk speed (like, idk, 91%)(yes I'm looking at you stratiformis), and you switch to a potion, you can drink the potion without losing the walk speed for a second? I think that's what you meant? In which case, it's ok, but what if people use the mouse wheel to scroll? They might have the strati in slot 2 with another weapon in slot 1 and 3, so unless they use the number buttons they can't keep the ws.

    There's no way you could change this, unless they maybe go to 1.9, so the only weapon you can use at a time is the one in your offhand and it gives you the stats. That could work... Maybe... Idk lol
     
  7. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    i was thinking more along the lines of actually doing smth to lock the item like offhand as u mentioned or a kinda lock system like in expansion/enhanced (if they can do that without mods) in any case, once the item is equiped, you should always get the ids from that item no matter what your holding and of course if you dont want to equip a specific item then you can just stick to the current system
     
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    SaltyKing Banana CHAMPION

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    Can you please re-rewrite this with Capital letters and not such a chunky block of text.
    Which means moving to a new line after a few sentences to break up text.

    Or even doing it like this when talking about something different so people like me who struggle with english can understand it.

    Reading the comments i can assume it is a good idea but i cant understand it ;(
     
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  9. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    Tl:Dr - Don't lose ids when moving mouse off of weapon.
     
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    DrX2345 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Right. the part in bold is what I've got an issue with. Sure, using a potion is fine. Sure, holding your quest book is fine. The issues I have with this are that weapons like a level 40ish bow called Crafted Gem (first example I thought of) has very low damage, 1-20 iirc, but high xp and loot bonuses. So, if you equip this, but use a high level bow (in this case), you would get the damage of the good weapon but only the ids from the Crafted Gem. This is why I suggested what i did, or maybe it could auto-equip a weapon when you attack with it. This changes all the ids to those of the equipped weapon.
     
  11. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    well i was thinking like u cant use any other weapons when another is equipped period :/
    so u cant attack with one weapon while getting ids from another cuz thats obviously broken *cough cough* specialist *cough cough*
    so i guess it would have to be an off hand kinda thing but idk if theres some way you could code it to only use the selected weapon or smth
     
  12. SaltyKing

    SaltyKing Banana CHAMPION

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    Thanks so much :)

    Sounds really f*cking OP
    Makes a bunch of mythics even more over powered (Strati for one)
    and interesting concept but it would have to have the ids nerfed if you weren't holding

    So if u had an 80WS strati you would only get like a 20WS bonus ya know?
     
  13. OGK

    OGK The Grader CHAMPION

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    Gonna grade this now.

    Already a few problems.
    -Grammar
    -Spelling
    -Informal
    -Sounds really broken.
    -Spelling
    -Informal
    -Sounds nice but what would the point be for this weapon slot?
    -Sounds nice.
    -Make no sense but when combined with the quote before this is makes some sense.
    -Sounds very broken.
    -Abuse-able
    -Informal
    -Informal
    -That sounds... less broken?
    -How will this work?
    -Elabroate
    -Informal
    -Spelling errors
    -Does not make any sense

    Grade: 26% F

    Overall:
    This makes no sense, it is very informal and it is very confusing. It makes 0 sense on how this can be done and you give no information on where and how this can be done. Plus I wish that you would refer to How to Suggest, as it shows what will be required in order to make a nice suggestion. This suggestion is very sloppy and ill-done.

    How you can improve:
    -Make it neater.
    -Elaborate more.
    -How this can be done.
    -Why do we need this?
    -How will we use this?
    -Add sections (For neatness)
    -Make it look appealing

    This is all, I encourage a rework on this and I wish you good luck on this. Do not be discouraged and I wish you to have an improvement as I am interested in this.
    Also yes I do change my grading, I want to test out different types of grading until I find one that seems just right for me.

    Have a Good Day!
    -OGK
     
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  14. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    And while your comprehension may be low, I understood perfectly.

    Basically, a weapon slot so you keep the weapon's ids until you actually want to get rid of them.

    "Couldn't you use another weapon outside of this slot while keeping the OP ids from the weapon inside the slot?"
    You literally pointed this out yourself, you won't be able to use any other weapons.

    "Why?"
    To prevent losing ids and SP from your build when you scroll to just drink a potion.
    This isn't going to change anything, and it's not going to make anything OP at all.
    It just lets the weapon stay equipped while you're not using it.
    and only that weapon.
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    No, you didn't understand...

    This is basically just a suggestion to streamline the weapon wielding system.
    With an accessory slot on your hotbar.
     
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  15. OGK

    OGK The Grader CHAMPION

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    This was for the reservation of those who could not understand. The OP could have elaborated more about this and have it make sense. Please don't assume that everyone knows what you are talking about. Also why Boink?

    I wont say that I knew what was being said and other people above did not understand either at first. A goal for a General Suggestion is to make it 90% clear on what is going on. This is why the grade was low for the Suggestion. A lot comes from how it is presented.
     
  16. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    I agree he could have worded and planned it out better, but even then it wasn't that hard to understand.

    Boink because I wasn't gonna leave a wall of text in that quote box.
     
  17. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    uh why would having strati's ids while not holding strati be op? its basically like holding strati but more convenient
    the only weapon i could see this being a problem with would be some compiler gravity thing
     
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