World Legacy Server(s)

Yes. Legacy servers.
NOTICE - The poll asks if they should at least be tested. It doesn't mean they would have to stay if they're not worth it.
If you don't know what to vote since you never experienced pre-Gavel Wynn, you can watch old videos to get the idea.

I also got the idea that Wynncraft could theoretically allow someone else to privately host a legacy server so it wouldn't cost Wynn money.

Spoiler: TL;DR

Old Wynn was simpler which some people prefer
Wouldn't affect the current servers
Could make old players return
Could make different kinds of new players to stay
Would give more options for different kind of players
The old code and the old world both exist backed up
Just because it's "old" it doesn't mean it was bad

Reasoning for legacy servers:
I know change is good. Gavel added a ton of content for Wynncraft and overall it was a good update for the game. However, there are people like me and many of my friends who quit because of it. Wynn used to be simple... easy to understand and easy to join as a new player. Nowadays most high level players seem to have no idea how the market and system really works... many people seem to have differing opinions on things. Not to mention I've noticed that a lot of old players have just quit because of it. (Obviously a lot remain, just saying that some people stopped playing purely due to gavel).
After gavel I was barely able to reach lvl 100, in old Wynn I had 3 maxed classes...

Obviously (and sadly) new players come before the "loyal old-timers", Wynn is a business and has to grow. Gavel keeps certain kind of players hooked for way longer than old Wynn ever could. Yet when I've tried inviting friends to play on Wynncraft many of them quit due to it being "too complicated". Why not have both versions available?

Adding legacy servers DOES NOT mean Gavel servers should be dropped. That would be insanity. Adding legacy servers wouldn't affect the current Wynncraft at all, it would just give options. Saying old Wynn is bad because it's simple feels silly to me. It was still an MMORPG experience and I absolutely loved it. You could say I only want it back because of nostalgia and who knows, you may be right. I think it would still be worth a shot. Open a few legacy servers for a small while and see if it's worth it. The code is still there backed up and so is the world.

I'm not saying legacy servers should actually be kept up to date either. It doesn't have to be like 07scape where things are being added and changed. Just good ol' Wynn would keep players hooked for a long time like it used to before. If it really became worth it maybe then updates could be done.

Remember, this doesn't mean Wynn would need to have tons of legacy servers that would put huge load on the network. Just a few to see if people like it. I also understand old Wynn has different version support, but quite frankly I don't think it needs any higher support than 1.8 currently. Though it doesn't seem to take too much time to just add higher version protocols even if the server is based on older versions.

Not to mention, who says WHICH version before Gavel it has to be? It could be so old it still had swarms on it! There could be a poll about it if these servers would ever be made. I guess the biggest issue would be getting old players to hear about it if they want to return, but I believe there are enough players who would like them for it to be worth it.

Spoiler: My background

My background:
I joined Wynn in 2014. I was there for the good ol' swarms (and the good ol' bugged swarms), vanilla items, world revamp and many other updates. I loved this server. I lived on it. When the guild update came I was the first to complete all quests (1 of them was bugged with a 0.2% drop chance when it was supposed to be 20%... needed 8 of those items so I farmed for multiple hours just to be able to make that post that I did it first). I even used to be a pvp player when pre-nerf mage was op! Good memories.

I used to trade like crazy and knew how the economy worked and knew how Wynn worked. I never cared much for le, I acquired a lot of it simply to be able to afford vanity items and vanilla items. Man I loved gathering them. I still have all the good vanity items (seekers aid, pumpkin, grians map, salteds poop and mama zombles head)

When gavel hit I started clearing content fast, hitting level 94 on the first double xp week. After that I just... stopped. It took me quite a while to actually hit level 100 and I only did it thanks to totems. I didn't feel like leveling any new classes in this new environment... it just wasn't the same. I also stopped trading and after my friends stopped playing, so did I.

Some time after Gavel I joined the CT and worked hard for a while. However as Wynncraft just stopped feeling how it used to be for me, my love for playing the game died and my inspiration to help make it better slowly followed till I was simply removed for inactivity (and I totally deserved it, I probably won't be joining back ever again because I just lost that spark I used to have). I still left a mark on the server and that is more than most will ever be able to say. Everything has to come to an end and my time in the CT was amazing regardless of me not doing much for the last months in it. The team is an amazing community.

 

Legacy is the old map, before they removed powders for a while?

 

Legacy is the old map with old powders working, just no gavel or gavel item system. Honestly who says it couldn't be even older? It could be so old it still contained swarms!

 

Well I'm sorry but I gotta vote no for that.
Tbh I doubt that people will play here, seeing as the content is mostly scarce, and it takes money to run servers.

 

And that's fine ^^ As I said in the post, Wynncraft used to be way simpler and Gavel update is overall better for the server. However there still are people who prefer simpler things and I'd say there are enough of those players to make it work. There doesn't have to be a ton of legacy servers, just as many as are needed.

 

Thanks for respecting my opinion and such! I was honestly expecting a debate but this is cool I guess.

 

I would love to play old Wynn :)

 

Wynncraft also had a lot more players November 2015 compared to January 2016 (Pre-gavel and Post Gavel)

Also 2 of my siblings were huge fans of wynncraft back then, and both quit on their first day of gavel.

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pre gavel b4 dungeon revamp

God I miss the first skelly dungeon

 

well sure, but it might be a bit buggy with 1.8 and all

 

Honestly that shouldn't be the reason for saying no :P It's just merging the protocols. I mean 1.8 and 1.12 are really different yet they work together. You could still probably work a 1.7 server with 1.12 if you wanted to... It just limits what you can do because only the base version the server runs matters.

 

that was pure glory

 

Well, my reason for saying no is:
Costs money for a feature not everyone would use (I doubt it would bring in more players too, OLD MAP UPDATE)
Buggy with certain features
2 online Wynn maps?

 

How do you know for sure they backed up the old code and the old map? Even if they did, it would be a waste of resources. Regardless if you have nostalgia for the old days, bringing back and supporting old features is counterproductive to actually updating the current game. If you have a problem with the item system for example, suggest ways in which they improve upon it. Plus it's not like old Wynn was perfect either. No good quests, 100% grinding, extreme backtracking, lack of quick travel, and lack of content lvl 40 and up. Even if some people want to do it, the majority of players probably won't use it for the reasons above and they would have to start at lvl 1 again.

TL:DR It's probably not possible and even if it was it would be A) Hard to manage and counterproductive B) Not a good feature and C) Most players probably wouldn't use it

 

Did you even read what I wrote...?
"How do you know for sure they backed up the old code and the old map?"
I was in the CT + doing backups is a basic part of running a business like this. It would be silly to dump it away for no real reason while it probably doesn't take that much space.

"Regardless if you have nostalgia for the old days, bringing back and supporting old features is counterproductive to actually updating the current game."
I said it doesn't need to be updated or worked on. People used to be fine with what Wynn was for a very long time and probably still would.

"Plus it's not like old Wynn was perfect either. No good quests, 100% grinding, extreme backtracking, lack of quick travel, and lack of content lvl 40 and up. Even if some people want to do it, the majority of players probably won't use it for the reasons above and they would have to start at lvl 1 again. "
I said that Gavel was good for the server overall. Those are not issues for everyone. I don't think every quest has to be extremely lore heavy or puzzle heavy or whatever. It's nice to have those simple quests every once in a while. Though I do think script could really make old Wynn way better too. It's just not needed for me to be ready to start as a lvl 1 and grind again.
Lack of quick travel? What? There are horses + tp scrolls in old Wynn? Did you even play back then?
Yes there is not as much content, but some people simply like the grind.

"Hard to manage and counterproductive"
How exactly...? The code is there and the world is there. All they could do is set up a server for 2 weeks and see if players like it. That's it. Not much work and not a big loss if it's not worth it.

Remember, not everyone prefers new Wynn like you do. Obviously a lot of people do and right now the smaller part of the community would prefer the old play style. That doesn't mean it couldn't once again attract people like me and my friends who really liked old Wynn way more. It might seem like it has 0 content, yet I lived in that world for a very long time compared to getting bored with gavel in 2 weeks.

But I also do see where you're coming from, it's just you might not have understood what I meant with my post so I'm making these points to make you see the other side of the story.

 

This is a bad idea.
Wynn Pre-Gavel was so unfinished.
It's unfinished now, but it was worse then.
At least now they have balancing experience and more quests.

 

Yeah it kinda was. I just prefer the old system so much more I'd be ready to play it and grind it again over playing in the current system. I mean is it such a bad idea Wynn couldn't test it for 2 weeks? Honestly it feels like Wynn is a different game nowadays.

 

i agree

 

Sorry about that, I didn't see your profile section at the bottom. If it's only for two weeks, I'm fine with that. If this turns out to be for the long term, I can't support it. Wynncraft needs all the servers it can get, even if its just a few. I assume thats why Wizard Fortess doesn't exist (that and no one played it).

Besides that, it's fine if you like pre-Gavel better. Objectively though, it's not as good as the current game. I know the limitations of the genre and the game, but most content/quests should be engaging and not stupid fetch quests. Pre-Gavel, there were no good quests. (Expect Wynn Exa Site D) I just remember there being so much stupid stuff that they removed with the revamps of quests. Especially travelling the ocean *shudders* Why do you think they made the SeaSkipper? As for grinding, again, that's fine if you enjoy it, but for most players it's absolute hell.

 

if you hate grinding then the new dungeons must freak the fuck out of you knowing before they were parkour and fight/puzzle sections while now they are token grinding

 

Nunununu

So it would be the same server, just that there would be certain worlds that update using a different map/system

Also, every server ever launched on wynncraft (aka ever world) costs money on their own, this wouldn't change much

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yes it was less confusing and more beginner friendly

and not many people like the 3D models, I liked the old 2d ones more